I wonder if beth has added in the option to let us smoke in fo4. We see cigars in the inventory in the e3 footage which could be just valuable misc items but it would be nice to have for RPing purposes or small stats boost.


Thoughts?

I loved how the FWE mod for FO3 added sacks of weed, and smoking a joint enhanced your speech and charisma, lol. More of that!

I agree. NPCs are able to smoke. Why can't some of our characters smoke too?

Let me smoke some Coffin Nails.

I think it was due the strict age rating system Germany & Australia have. Hence why morphine is called med-x in game.


Yea that was sweet but the visuals got a bit much at times.

Probably not just Germany and Australia. The US probably has some restrictions too. Smoking in movies has affected the movies' rating for a while now: http://variety.com/2007/film/markets-festivals/smoking-in-movies-to-affect-ratings-1117964655/

Has nothing to do with USA ratings. This game is mature. No amount of drug use couod change that.

It's all the Germans and Australians draconian ratings board and the absurd concept that Bethsadia wants to release an "uncut" version for them.

The fact that we could loot cigarettes in fallout 3 shows they were meant in there.

Protip: Cigarettes fall under "drug use" and even if you took out all the med-x and junk, it would most likely still warrant a mature rating if there were cigarettes. While other countries may indeed be more draconian, it doesn't alter the fact that the US has similar laws.

I liked the smoking mod for New Vegas, so I would not mind the option being there, or a follow up mod.

You know, for those moments where you just killed ten people who thought they had your number, covering in the blood of your enemies and you light up with that 'well, that just happened' look on your face...

Sir, from personal experience, I can safely tell you that smoking the MJ has the exact opposite effect. It does NOT make you a smooth operator. You are not crisp. You'll FUNCTION, but you ain't crisp.

In the Metal Gear series the protagonists light up either cigarettes or cigars all the time, I can't imagine this being an issue. I would like the option too.

happy to hear there was a cigar in there at all, didn't see that, and i had some concerns that fo might join the general anti-smoking frenzy.

about smoking, i don't really think we'll be able to smoke, not because it's smoklng, but because we're basically not able to do anything that doesn't proceed the game.

try to use one of the toilets, if you think it isn't so ,-)

edit: then again, while the actual smoking _would_ take an animation, just "equipping" a cigarette (= pop-up sticking it into the player's face) would not, and that'd be dead easy to make (just a piece of armour for the face mask slot technically

german ratings are very strict in matters of violence and gore, but pretty laissez faire in matters of six and drugs, and fo is rated iirc 18+ anyway in germany and austria, so i don't think it's that.

might be steam though.

since a weed-mod has been mentioned: everything drugs etc (like the "marijuana" mod for skyrim) is taken off faster than you can say weed

This is absolutely wrong, games can be and are ESRB rated Teen and E10+, even with alcohol or tobacco consumption depicted. The game http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=10001669&Title= is a perfect example of this.

I stand corrected.

However, further evidence shows that it would appear the policy is not applied evenly. A quick search on esrb.org shows games with tobacco use get a wide disparity of ratings...

I would like this for certain characters.

I'm just slightly amused that there are still machine processed cigarettes left.

How would that work? lol from personal experience i would think that it would make you speech go down.

And the animation was in fallout new vegas and fallout 3, you'd think it would be easy to use them and then have the animation play in third person.

Yeah we should definitely be able to run a post apocalyptic tobacco plantation in our settlements and one of our settler jobs would be rolling cigars and cigarettes lol

hope you brought a tobacco plant seed from the mojave

I was thinking there has got to be a derelict factory somewhere that still has some seeds in it. Perhaps kept in some kind of cold storage for two hundred years!

*For the record, I'm just being silly here. I in no way expect that we will be able to grow tobacco at our settlements.*

wanna bet?

Lol, I only bet if my Luck stat is 8 or higher. Sadly, it's only a 5 as far as this matter is concerned

*smokes phantom cigar*

Chomping on a big cigar whilst mowing down raiders? Count me in.

Australia would be fine with it and I hardly doubt the rating would change. GTA 5 has smoking, and smoking would not be the factor to warrant anything higher than MA15 which is what fallout is currently rated as here.

So not as dracionian as you may think, and we could loot tea pots and countless other useless objects. doesnt mean it was ever intended to be used by the PC