DId you end up changing that? I played a bit yesterday and noticed that my nighteye was a good bit less bright than usual (and also has limited range). I kind of like the darker version - I sometimes felt like I was cheating, walking around with nighteye that was bright as day. Not sure about the vision limit, though; I've always been of the opinion that nighteye/darkvision/whatever should have the same range as normal sight in darkness. I'll have to play with it a little more to get a really good feel for it.

Yup. There is a setting that allows you to change the overall brightness of the night-eye effect. Before 4.3.0, it was using the default of .75, and I switched it to .25, which seems to work well enough. Although if you wanted to mimic animals with actual night vision, .75 really is closer to reality.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this. Are you talking about the tunneled effect? If so, that only kicks in when there is a lot of light hitting you, forcing you to "squint" because your eyes are so light-sensitive. That's the idea at any rate. But if you don't like it, you can turn off the tunneled effect in the .ini settings.

Side note: Currently working on revising the .ini Guide documentation and simplifying/reorganizing the .ini file to account for all the changes since 4.1, and there's plenty, let me tell ya.

IIRC, the original 'SwitchNightEyeShaders' plugin had the ability to switch between shaders manually 'in game' via the redefinable '[' and ']' keys. Is that capability still there? Either way, you might make a mention about it in the new INI Guide since those familiar with it from the original will wonder.

-Dubious-

It wasn't a tunnel effect; more like I could only see so far, and the nighteye just... ended. I checked again and the effect wasn't there, so maybe I was just imagining things.

Edit: There's a setting to alter brightness? Cool! I bumped it up to 0.35, and I think it's perfect. Thanks for this.

Scanti's OBSE Night Eye Shader Switcher plug-in (http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=19476) does not have that feature. It only has the .dll, and to switch it with just the dll requires a console command.

Kuertee's Detect life effect and Night Eye Shader (http://tes.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=36407) does have that feature, but has nothing to do with my mod, other than borrowing some of the code concepts. If people want to manually switch between shaders like that, they should use Kuertee's mod and disable my night-eye shaders. Then they can customize Kuertee's shaders to taste. (I'll add that to the documentation)
The .dll does not have such a command. However, Kuertee's mod that uses the plug-in does, so that is probably what you are thinking of.

I like this setting for interiors myself, so I'm gonna make it the default.

Also, don't know if you realize this, but the .ini for Player Fade While Sneaking is turned off be default in the current beta, because it was still an experimental feature. As far as I can tell, it works, so the question is whether or not to have it turned on by default in the official release.

Thoughts? I can see two sides of it.
In favor of it being turned on: it's kinda neat.
In favor of it being turned off: it gives away when you are about to be detected, and reduces the challenge.

Player Fade While Sneaking... as in, a chameleon effect is applied while you're sneaking? I would turn it off because I don't care for chameleon, personally - I have trouble seeing myself (even in 1st person). Course, I also use the sneak icon; that kind of does the same thing re: reducing the challenge, since it gets bright when someone sees you. As long as you can set it yourself, I don't think it would matter either way - those of us who really care could turn it on/off (I have to change some settings for every update anyway), and the rest can leave it alone.

Sigh. Still running into problems with disappearing actors. Grrr. For some reason, the base actor value is not getting captured and saved.

Not quite like Chameleon, WIS. It just reduces the alpha shade on your character and dims to slight transparency. It's actually pretty neat. Try it out at least.

I'd still vote to default it off though Saebel. Don't get me wrong, I have it on in my ini file and think it's just icing on the cake, but not everyone will like it.

Leaving it off by default is probably the wiser way to go. Since the SDR mod is *supposed* to be geared towards a more realistic approach, that feature (cool as it is) does stray away from that.

UPDATE: I *believe* I *finally* got the disappearing NPCs bug fixed. Rewrote the code for the related sections entirely. Goiing to do a full test run now through Mehrunes Razor.

Was the bug fixed for Player Fade with companions? I have been unable to playtest the new version yet and it will be a long while before I can.

It's not fixed in the 4.3.0 beta, but it is fixed in the 4.4.0 version which I haven't released yet. Since other than the disappearing NPCs no one has reported any other bugs, 4.4.0 will be the official (and hopefully final) release.

To do list:
- Finish test runs of Mehrune's Razor and Dark Brotherhood quest line
- Test all individual features of the SDR mod
- Finish updating ini guide documentation
- Update SDR website
- Release 4.4.0 in manual/wrye/omod packages (with installation wizards?) on TES Nexus and Alliance, and *maybe* Planet Elder Scrolls.

If all goes well, this will be the final release of SDR, assuming there are no more bugs. It may be awhile before it's ready, because testing and documenting everything is going to take awhile.

Arrggh. Disappearing corpses I could deal with, but twice now I've disappeared. (That is, if I don't have a chameleon effect active, I'm completely invisible. If I have a chameleon effect, then the semi-transparent alpha shading works). I can only get rid of it by reloading an earlier save, so the bad alpha value is getting stored in the savegame even if I deactivate SDR/AddActorValues. It does seem to be semi-random, although it only happens after I've been sneaking with chameleon effects active. Is there a console command where I could reset the player alpha value and carry on?

You know, as I think about it, this is such a freak bug it reminded me of the double-face bug. Maybe the best way to handle it is to just clean it up after it occurs, like how the UOP gives a spell to fix that bug. Maybe a simple spell (lesser power) that can be cast that resets the alpha values for all the actors and corpses in the area? I'm all for trying to squash bugs before they happen, and not cluttering up my spell book with utilities, but...

EDIT: Ah, cool. Will grab the new version. Thanks!

Just uploaded 4.4.0 to TES Nexus site in Wrye Bash only format.
4.4.0 fixes the disappearing issue, and has the updated .ini Guide manual.

To do list:
- Create Manual install version
- Create OMOD version w/ Installation Wizard
- Create WryeBash version w/ Installation Wizard
- Update TES Nexus
- Update TES Alliance
- Update the SDR website

Whoops.

I have a problem with the night-eye shaders. For any race that has night-eye, the screen goes completely white. I changed the ini settings to only activate when I press a key, and sure enough, the screen goes white when I press the key. This happens irrespective of the actual light levels. I've tried it with and without tunnel vision, and it's always the same - a completely white screen.

Eloise

Cool!

Double cool!! Due to my saves becoming increasingly unstable, I've decided to take a break from Oblivion and go play Skyrim for a bit (now that they've fixed most of the major bugs). This will be a welcome addition to my game.

I'm guessing it is either a graphics/video setting or some of the shader folders did not get installed. You need to have both the Shaders\nighteye and the Shaders\hdr.nighteye folders and files installed if you have hdr active. Quoting the documentation from the night-eye shader switcher plug-in:

"Any shaders you create must be in the pso file format and be placed in the data\shaders\nighteye folder and the data\shaders\hdr.nighteye folder. Each shader must have 2 versions. One normal shader in the data\shaders\nighteye folder and another for when the game is using HDR in the data\shaders\hdr.nighteye folder. (If you miss out the hdr version of the shader and the player is using hdr then the screen will black-out or white-out while night eye is active)."

Okay folks, that should do it for awhile. Just released a teeny-tiny update, 4.4.1, which corrects some grammar in an error message. But I now have Wrye Bash, OBMM, and manual installation packages, as well as an update only package for those that already have 4.4.0 installed. The Wrye Bash and OBMM packages have installer wizards built in now. As far as I can tell, everything seems to be working.

So that pretty much wraps it up for development on SDR. I'll be checking in to answer questions and provide bug fixes/technical support.

Oh, and since it's the beginning of a new month, it'd be REALLY awesome if you could vote for SDR as file of the month at TES Nexus. I think it's a deserving candidate among many, and currently I'm ranked 2nd. It's pretty much now or never.

Thank you all for your support and encouragement. It's been one heck of an experience.

A really BIG thanx mucho for your final work on this, saebel.

It seems to me one of those must have mods for any serious Oblivion mod user. I've already cast my vote for SDR as file of the month ( mine is one the current two votes recorded at present). And given the incredible amount of time, energy, and talent you have put into this project, and the result achieved... SDR deserves every vote it can get.

Yup, a big thank you for your hard work. Taking a break from Skyrim until the patches and mods are more mature, until then, SDR will greatly enhance another playthrough of Oblivion.

Duuude... nice April Fool's joke. I had a feeling something was up, but I didn't catch it.

Congrats on the final release, and thanks for a great mod and all the hard work (and putting up with all of us). Hopefully we will see SDR for Skyrim sometime in the future.

Thanks all!

Unfortunately, the likelyhood of SDR for Skyrim is very low, at least for a long time, if ever. My work is built on the shoulders of others. Before I could possibly port it over, the following would have to happen:

- Someone would need to hack the detection formula, and provide a hook for it so that it can be overridden
- Someone would have to recreate the equivalent of the AddActorValues OBSE plug-in
- Someone would have to recreate the equivalent of the Night Eye Shader Switcher OBSE plug-in
- I would have to play the game, decide what needs to be done, learn the creation kit, etc. etc.

To be honest, after putting in well over 500 hours into this mod (rough estimate), I have no desire to put that kind of time into it. If someone wants to adapt it for Skyrim and borrow all the code, that's fine, but my spare time really needs to be focused on my long term career goal of becoming a film director. That's probably where those 500 hours should have been spent (and would have, had I known how much time and effort this project was going to take).

That being said, I'm quite happy with how SDR turned out, and I'm glad other folks are too. It's nice to be able to give back a little something to an amazing community that is so focused on just making the Oblivion experience better, in such a selfless manner. You don't run into that much anywhere else.

Anyway, since we're close to the post limit, here's a pre-emptive strike:

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1363392-relz-sneaking-detection-recalibrated-8/

New thread is up. Let's close this one.