*critique

No you are not an expert on horses obviously and like I have said a million times, look up a draft horse and you will see they look and move just like that. If people just stopped assuming and actually did research maybe these forums wouldn't be so bad.

Do you know what an RPG is? It's not an action-adventure game. It's a complex, tedious and challenging game. Bethesda shouldn't be moving to a different genre (or trying to redefine the one they're in) to suit your needs. If you don't like what's offered to you in an RPG, don't play RPGs. It's as simple as that.

Your character is a mortal, not a god. Why should he or she have god-like qualities? If anything, that would kill the fun of the game. Nothing would be challenging, and because of that, nothing would be rewarding either. How fun would Pacman be if you were always able to eat the ghosts? Not very fun.

You want to play tedious games... I see... Chess is all about Complexity, Tedious and Challenge. Try that.

To it to affect his movements after he fall it would require Limb Damage, what we don't have. (And he does take damage, just not too much because he is in Todd Mod)
And while you can impose yourself limits by roleplaying as a mortal (Like walking slower because of the fall damage) the other way is not true: People cannot evict the damage to pretend that they are immortal demi-god Dragonborn.

Actually Chess is all about strategy and tactics...

But I digress.

;)

I actually love Chess. :biggrin:
But I must admit... It's rather boring to watch it (Playing is where the fun is)

i'm sorry but horses don't move that way, my aunt owns a stable i ride all the time. The best game representation of horses i've come across was the original assasins creed, one of the worst was in red dead redemption but i know todd loves that game (maybe because it's so buggy ) so maybe he took a leaf out of the wrong book.

And while you can impose yourself limits by roleplaying as a mortal (Like walking slower because of the fall damage) the other way is not true: People cannot evict the damage to pretend that they are immortal demi-god Dragonborn.

With regards to the falling a long way, someone already pointed out, waaaaaayyyyy back on the first page, that this was clearly a dragon shout.

And yes, critiquing alpha footage from E3 is pointless.

Sure, and we can move away from the RPG genre all the while. If you prefer games that favor simplicity over complexity, there are plenty out there for you. However, TES should not be a series that caters to impatient, prepubascent teens.

There are no challenges in Skyrim. No penalties, only flashy animations and cheap, shallow features that take away from the role-playing aspect. Why should you have to deal with things like weighted items, multiple pieces of armor, armor and weapon degradation, and other things that actually add a sense of pseudo-realism to the game? You only want to kill [censored], and look cool while doing it.

:facepalm:

I'm sorry, are we actually talking about realism in a game where you kill dragons with fireballs?

There are no challenges in Skyrim. No penalties, only flashy animations and cheap, shallow features that take away from the role-playing aspect. Why should you have to deal with things like weighted items, multiple pieces of armor, armor and weapon degradation, and other things that actually add a sense of pseudo-realism to the game? You only want to kill [censored], and look cool while doing it.

Considering both games used motioncapture, I'd like to see how you have any evidence for this. It's one thing to be negative, it's another thing to make things up to prove a point that was flimsy at best. At this point, you're just a troll. Go lolololol yourself somewhere else and stop bringing up things you know people will argue with, just to argue and divert the thread. The horse moves fine, his back legs are a little odd, but he moves fine. It's not like they made him walk like 2 people in a horse costume. At some point, the nitpicking has to run into the brick wall that is "video games" so you'll wake the hell up and realize video games are representations of reality with our own rules imposed upon them. They are not exactly the same. They never will be. I'm so tired of people being controversial just for the hell of it.

The horse is a significant update from Oblivion's Jeep mounts. Each iteration improves upon the foundation established by the last, and the improvement is where the immersion lies. Perfection, and expectations of such, will ruin you as a person and especially as a gamer. Welcome to how it works my friend. Careful with the door on your way out. It's not animated perfectly and may hit you as it closes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorealism

i'm sorry but horses don't move that way, my aunt owns a stable i ride all the time. The best game representation of horses i've come across was the original assasins creed, one of the worst was in red dead redemption but i know todd loves that game (maybe because it's so buggy ) so maybe he took a leaf out of the wrong book.

Strange. That Wikipedia page didn't include the definition "picking and choosing the aspects of real life that one personally feels belong in a completely made-up world."

0:27 ever hear of "being in shock" seems realistic to me.

first of all, i was responding to someone else's comment about horse animations, i didn't "bring it up". Secondly don't you think your two statements of "his back legs are a little odd" and "he moves fine" are contradictory?? As for your comment that each iteration improves upon the foundation of the last: they should and do also draw from other games in the genre - notice how the spells are reminiscent of bioshock now? Lastly, how is it you can flame me and accuse me of being a troll for pointing out problems with horse animations when you did the same thing to oblivion's horses?

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. I didn't think there was anything wrong with the horse myself, so I had my girlfriend watch the video a few times. My girlfriend was a competitive rider/show jumper, and grew up on a farm with lots of horses, and she finds nothing wrong with the way the horse looks (except it looks a little gaunt, due to overly defined muscles) and definitely nothing wrong with the way the horse moves, except that it paced a bit when it transitioned from the walk to the trot.

"I'm going to have to disagree with you here. I didn't think there was anything wrong with the horse myself, so I had my girlfriend watch the video a few times. My girlfriend was a competitive rider/show jumper, and grew up on a farm with lots of horses, and she finds nothing wrong with the way the horse looks (except it looks a little gaunt, due to overly defined muscles) and definitely nothing wrong with the way the horse moves, except that it paced a bit when it transitioned from the walk to the trot."

You brought up RDR and your own "real life expertise," purely to instigate controversy over RDR, something you darn well know is almost universally regarded as some of gaming's best horses ever created. You just fueled the fire for no reason, and still are.