New Vegas has a better story and gameplay mechanics but Fallout 3 has better exploration. I found exploring the Mojave kind boring there wasn't much point in it and nothing interesting to find. Also the animals out there are pretty lethal so I never really bothered to do it to much

That's generally what most people say, to tell the truth. Some of those meaningless locations have pretty interesting stories though. Like the farm where the guy went insane and burned himself alive to prevent the evil barn animals from getting him. It's the one with the malnourished bighorners and malnourished brahmin.

Now, what ending did you choose?

I sided with legion it was pretty grim especially after all the bad stuff I did

I know this makes me sound like I've never played Fallout (which isn't true because I have over 500 hours), but WHERE IS THIS?!

That would be http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Matthews_Animal_Husbandry_Farm to the west south-west of Camp Searchlight or a little south of the Raided Farmstead.

The story is in notes. I thought it was the kid who burned.

I just went into the farm and explored it.

It's actually a vague reference to animal farm, IMHO.

Ah yes, that one is an interesting one. I remember going there the first time, and wondering when the animals would attack.

If it was a reference to Animal Farm, wouldn't be a lot more political?
But that would have been an awesome Wild Wasteland moment: It turns out that he was right all along and after he's dead we find other notes and terminals, detailing the animals government slowly turning into a authoritarian dictatorship and subsequent revolution. Maybe there''s ramshackle ruins the animals built or a unique weapon.

It was a reference to Animal Farm because he was afraid that the Animals would take over his farm, and that they were more intelligent than previously thought.

How the hell are his animals alive after all this time?

Eh... that's a bit of a stretch. He just went insane after his parents attacked him because he felt that, since the two closest people in his life turned against him, he could no longer trust anything. His traumatic experience caused schizophrenia, which led to his suicide.

Animal Farm is about a totalitarian government oppressing its people by suppressing their freedoms and taking advantage of their stupidity.

I'm not really seeing a connection outside of 'both had animals and both had a farm.'

Oh, and if you want something else that you probably never found,http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Evil_gnome I just found it recently (on the wiki, not even in-game), and that's after over a year of playing.


I don't know, but they are malnourished.

i dont get it, where those animals really evil LOL
and dafuq does malnourished mean.
i had a really hard time deciding if i should have killed the animals cause the dude suicided cause of them, or if to just leave them alone

Like, the animals were starving or suffering from a lack of food. They weren't getting enough nutrients that are needed to live properly.

if only there was a feed option

There is a tipping option. After 2 full playthroughs and countless of non finished characters, I discovered Brahmin tipping. Just be in sneak and hit "E" on PC. It should tip over some brahmins. Doesn't work on the cows with stuff on their backs. Dumb merchants.

thats that cool

I think fallout 3 is better because the main quest is just amazing, i also like the perk and skill system a lot better, as well as new Vegas does not have all of the armor and weapons that Fallout 3 does.

of course you think the fallout 3 main quest is better the new vegas, your profile picture gives it away XD
the brotherhood are a butthurt in new vegas.

New Vegas offers a lot more choice, simply put, and thus can appeal to a greater crowd.

I thought the main quest in Fallout 3 svcked in comparison to New Vegas...


The only thing I would improve about New Vegas would be introducing a trait that gives you fewer skill points per level (maybe have the base as 5 and let intelligence add 0.5-5 on top of that) with all the DLCs installed as like many people say it's too easy to max all your skills now. I know, Logan's Loophole - but still I like the new perks for the levels past 30 and I like having extra perks too; I would rather keep the extra perks but just have fewer skill points so I can make a specialist rather than a "OMG I'm so awesome I can use any weapon as if I was born to use it" kind of guy. For my latest character I've deliberately kept my intelligence middling and not taken Comprehension or Educated to ensure I'll only max the one weapon skill I built the character for.

EDIT: Obviously back to the main topic of discussion, my point was Fallout 3 offered way too many skill points to a character and felt IMO ridiculously easy even on VH. As another point, I even prefer the exploration in New Vegas - I just can't get into constantly poking around ruins like you spend the majority of your time doing in FO3 and prefer the larger, more open landscape in NV.

My own opinions:

Fallout 3- Good, solid, story that lacked dynamic supporting characters. The Capital Wasteland is a vast and largely uninhabited treasure trove waiting to award the brave (and well-armed) adventuer. The game overall favors those who love character customization and exploration.

Fallout NV- Brilliant, multi-sided story that presents the player with gray decisions and inter-linking side stories. The Mojave Wasteland is a smaller and more settled expanse. Not as much in the way of items is yielded to the intreped explorer, but the player is often linked to the haunted echoes of a turbulent past. FNV tends to favor those who prefer being enthralled by a story and more deeply role-playing their characters.

Yeah I agree fonv does most things better but fallout 3 has an amazing atmosphere .
Probaby the least controversial thread ever lol.

One thing I will say is music on FO3 > music on FO:NV. Obviously these things are subjective, but I tire of the music much more quickly on FO:NV. Saying that, I think Why Don't You Do Right? by Peggy Lee trumphs all songs on both.

You are right. Civilization and let's go sunning were two great songs from FO3. Great tune to kill mutants to.

"I Got Spurs that Jingle Jangle" gets stuck in my head for days at a time. I got tired of 3 Dog though I miss President Eden.