Well it looked pretty good on Steam but not exactly sure what its about. Ugh, sorry I know such a short topic but my brain is slow today, dont know why:confused:

"Brink takes place on the Ark. Built in the near-future as part of a contemporary green vision, the Ark was a model for sustainable living. The massive man-made floating city became a home to the scientists and thinkers focused on making the vision a reality, while its wealthy patrons built a recreational paradise. But soon the threat of a global environmental crisis became real: glaciers melted, sea levels rose, and the very survival of humanity was threatened. Thousands from around the globe fled to the Ark as a last hope. Refugees clung to survival however they could, while the original founders and their descendants struggled to maintain the island.

Now, existing in 2045, A whole generation has grown up on the Ark, and while it was originally supposed to house around 5,000 people, it now houses around 50,000. Now, the Ark has lost contact with what remained of the mainland and exists in total isolation. As the Ark's supposedly renewable resources dwindle, the balance of power threatens to unravel and throw competing social factions into a horrific conflict.

With tensions growing, Security and Resistance forces are locked in a heated battle for control of the Ark. Which side will you choose?"

http://www.fragworld.org/frag/brink/the-fragworld-brink-compendium.html

It should also be noted that the resistance and security are not simply fighting over power, there is a disagreement over what should be done.

Resistance sees that the Ark will not last forever, and thinks that the best course of action is to get off the ark to try to find land and other remaining humans.

The security believes that even attempting to leave the Ark will be a waste of resources; as you would need to build some sort of ship, stock it with food, and then it may never even make it anywhere or come back.

The resistance sees the relative comfort that the Founders live in, though, and thinks that they are withholding information. How is it possible that there is no communication with the outside world what-so-ever? Seeing the rising tension, the Founders start to increase the size of their security force, borrowing mostly from the refugees by offering an extra water ration to anyone who joins.

The conflict then occurs over about 2 weeks.

Have you ever said this in the "sec vs res" threads? Because that was really well put, and sometimes it feels like they've forgotten the things you've pointed out on those threads.

[EDIT: although, I've never heard of the two last sentences of your post]

I tried to intervene several times when I first joined, but I quickly learned that people aren't concerned with actual facts in those threads, but rather their initial reactions and then defending those reactions.

You have people who are just looking to be an underdog, support that side, and assume that the founders are tyrants. Thus the security are nothing more than the gestapo.

You have people who are all about law and order, and cant stand the idea of someone showing up, being saved by you, and then stealing your stuff 40 years later. Thus they assume the resistance are only thieves.

You also have people who just like the look of one faction and attempt to support their opinion after the fact, although these people tend to be less fanatical.

The fact that both sides are gaining twisted information from their leaders guarantees that each side will be in the right for any one mission. The security are told that they are taking a biological weapon from container city; the resistance are told that they are having a vaccine stolen from them. This is intentional by the developers, as they want you to be able to support the side you are on. It also mirrors the fact that in a real war, both sides usually have merit.

The real question in how each individual person will feel about the factions after they have completed both campaigns. I suspect it wont be much different than the rec vs sec threads. People are going to take everything they know and unintentionally slant it to support their chosen faction. Both sides can reasonably assume the other is manipulating the information and theirs is telling the truth.

Btw, when I edited my post that I haven't heard of the last two sentences, I meant these. Has this info actually been said somewhere?

Yeah, several times over the last year, but I wouldn't even know where to start looking for a source. Ive seen so many dozens of video interviews at this point, they all start to jumble together.

Although you know this, I think I'll mention this here, so all the information that is important for the plot is in one place.

The Ark was towed in to the international waters, so that they could do experiments that would be otherwise illegal.

What would Horse do?

Shadow's been here for a long time and is/was one of the more valuable members in this discussion section.
What he said was true btw.

:rofl: Nice.

We need little wristbands made up... I'd rep mine all the time :laugh:

My friends would ask what the hell I am wearing, if I wore one haha

Which makes me laugh when I think about it.

Nobody would stop them from leaving the ARK. Nobody invited them to the ARK. But I guess they have settled down for too long and now it's just "easier" to fight for equality than to leave.

I do think that they are not just fighting for equality, they are fighting to get off the Ark, which was the point of shadowcat's post.

They can't just build a raft and blindly head for an expedition across the sea. There is just no way for that, because all the renewable resources are made on the Ark, everyone, resistance and security knows that if anything is to be done it has to be done together. The two factions just have disagreement on what that thing is.
The fight for resources is just a side-play. The main point for resistance is to try and to take over the Ark so that they can direct the resources to go for that journey across the sea, or even move the whole Ark for an expedition towards possible land. That expedition is going to be long, they have no idea where land is, and the only way to do it is by moving the whole Ark, or by somehow leaving it behind by creating a fleet or a huge vessel with the most fundamental parts of Ark relocated into them, so they can keep on growing food etc.
But the resistance has no say on what is happening on Ark, and they certainly have no resources to go for that journey.

Security believes that going for that journey is madness, and they have decided try to live on the Ark as long as they possibly could.

Hm, I did not actually think about it that way. Makes sense.

Nice post man. It made me look at the game in a whole new way.

Has anyone mentioned the fact that the founders have been STEALING from the refugees to fuel their own defensive force? Thats gotta be a good reason for the resistance to fight as well. Think about it, you have a small shanty, and low amounts of food to survive the week, and then the founders steal what little you have and tell you "You can either work for us and defend the land you have lived freely on, or you can join the resistance to take what is yours, and enact vengeance on those who have taken from you and your comrades."

Working for the security means you get water rations, and you can keep the "ARK dream" alive, or take what is yours through assisting the resistance, and find a new land where others have been living for decades or so.

These are just my thoughts.

Tbh all those resources were probably founder property to begin with. :unsure2: Refugees should thank their lucky stars they were shown any compassion to begin with and actually given the option.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Refugees are offered an extra water ration over a normal refugee if they become a member of the security. Accuse them of bribery, sure, but its not stealing.