Well, besides "what skills do you want to use", Oblivion didn't have any choices. And it had no consequences, since you could level every single skill up to 100+full perks.

Also, there's been 5 more years of people playing MMOs and ARPG/"skill tree" games (like Borderlands) that have trained people to expect that you can just redo your talent/perk/etc choices if some theorycrafter over on MMO Champion discovers that shifting one point from column A to column B will increase your DPS 0.1%. :rolleyes:

Is Kinect actually cool on Xbox? 'cause last time I tried singing on the Rock star games, my tune was off with the mic, and we got more points by putting the mic up to a static speaker next to the tv set mono output

(off topic, but I never meet many xbox gamers lol)

This is the reason a respec should NOT be allowed. Great post, NO RESPEC!

WTF....


I think the topic should be change to " Something very few of us want because we don't wanna start a different character we just wanna god-mode it"

Yeah, you let me know just how high you get your WEAPON skill by crafting.

This is something PC players can already do and is seemingly not causing any problems for PC players. I haven't really seen complaints about the remove perk console command breaking the game. You could of course abuse it in various ways, but it'd be as obvious an exploit as TGM.

People put a lot of hours into some characters, it'd be a shame for them to be stuck with either living with their poor perk choices(which could easily not be their fault, considering how vague and lacking in real information the perk descriptions are), or restarting.

lol my thought also!

someone mention being able to spend vast amounts of money on buying the perks back like in borderlands as someone else mentioned , i think that would be the most decent solution.....would give you somthing to spend a bunch of gold on though i does kinda ruin the point of a second play through but theres always just starting over another charachter or making a seperate file....good to have options i guess :intergalactic:

I thought the "Level 50" is just the "World" cap (The point at which you get the best Leveled Rewards and fight the Strongest Leveled Monsters), with leveling becoming slower as you're forced to level up otherwise-unused skills to continue advancing.

And as far as "perk respec" goes... I wish there was a Standing Stone or some kind of shrine in the wilderness that let you re-spec a single perk point once per level, no rollover. This allows you to correct perk assignment "mistakes" without allowing you to completely redefine your character. Being forced to either play with a knowingly-gimped character, or start over because you misspent 1-3 perks out of over 20-30 (and then some) total perks is not fun and aggravating as hell to put up with.

Here's a personal example of why we need perk-respec:
My character is a level 20 Khajiit, with perks in Two-handed weapons and Archery, with another perk in Block, and two in Destruction. I don't want those destruction perks, because I can't use them: I thought it would be cool to be able to use dual-casting to turn "Flames" into a face-melting conflagration (Instead, it turned into a magicka-draining tickle-laser). I've invested several weeks into this character, and I don't want to have to waste those weeks of gameplay just for those two perks. It's not like I'm completely re-defining my character. I just want to correct an early mistake.

And could people please stop with the "It's great for Replay Value" [censored]? No, it's not. Radiant Story is great for Replay Value. The sheer number of possible character types to make is great for replay value. And yet, Skyrim is one of those games that doesn't even need any replay value: If anything, it, like Oblivion, is best to play no more than 3 times (3 playthroughs is ~ 900 total Hours of gameplay).

In fact, replaying Skyrim devalues the experience, causing the level-scaling, limited randomization of the quests, and lengthy intro-sequence to become more aggravating.

While I don't care if we get a Respec or not (TES has always been pretty much Cap free and I'm damn well not having Skyrim change that on me without a fight) but that is a truly ridiculous comment.
Ban people for making Mods like that? In TES series? Do you have any idea how that sounds when you read it to yourself?
Your Comment goes against the concept of TES.


Power gaming is boring yes but the option has always been there for us and well there is "some" amusemant to be found in it.
I don't know why after all these years they decide to stop players from doing that, by removing the Attribute system.

I liked naming my own class, I liked the absurd amount of skills we had the options to use whenever and their governed attributes, it was freedom.

Some of us have the self control to not min/max all the time. Stop using that as an excuse. Besides, if you max out blacksmithing/alchemy/enchanting, you don't even need to respec. You'll be a killer regardless. Nice try, though.

I kind of can understand what the OP wants. It's not fun knowing that "I could've done better" and keep playing with the same problematic character, while playing a completely different character just to set things right is too time-consuming, especially if it's just 1-2 points lost, say, to that lockpicking tree. Because sometimes, you have to invest loads of perk points before you finally realize that perk you've been aiming for is not as good as it sounds in practice (Yes, I'm staring at you, Master lockpicker perk)

Perhaps it should be an option at the end of the game, when you've finished the main quest a re-spec feature can finally be used

Nah, you're looking for a fight bro. It's getting quite obvious. Don't make a thread that says "please read!" if your maturity level isn't high enough to understand that some will disagree and post opinions about that. Relax, not everyone is going to agree with your "necessary" fix. Everyone has every right to post in the thread as long as they are being constructive. Telling people to shut up or "get off" a thread (which makes no grammatical sense actually, you can't get off a thread) is just asking for trouble. Relax.

I've seen advlts with far worse grammar than kids on forums.

And where the heck do you live where it's against the law to play the game "under age"?

This isn't WoW, you can't ban people from a single player game. And because it is a single player game, how other people choose to mod it doesn't effect you. At all.

Closed for review.

Edit: Reviewed and it is staying closed. Some of you don't seem to grasp the forum rules, rude personal attacks, trying to demean other members, playing at grammar police, flamebaiting, falming, etc. will get moderator attention.