I bought Fallout New Vegas and Black Ops the days they came out. I beat Black Ops in under an hour and the multiplayer was just like MW2, which i hated and sold. I sold Black Ops.

I pre-ordered my copy of NV for 50 bucks from Wal Mart. Almost 300 hours of playing time later, I don't regret the purchase one little bit.

20 is a bargain and a steal if the patches fix the problems that New Vegas had.

I hate black ops too,but you and I don t mean much when it comes to sales. You should never buy a shooter for 1 player only on line.

I telling up straight up that this game dropping like it has means that all the complaining about exploring, and weak cl, and nothing to do r true. Westoftherockies or who ever he is is right. Every word......

The old fanbase can t keep the series afloat on there own. Even if you throw in guys like me who will buy it just because I like the fo idea, its not enough.

Say what you will, but there is no better proof than the price of the game. I m not sitting here lol while Im writing this either, because I don t think its that bad. I want the series to make money and do good and not get put down again.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say the gamestop near me is having a huge sale and NV was cheaper. I also saw just cause 2 for only $30 and I got gta IV for $20 because "greatest hits" was plastered on the front (I just found out last december that the good ps2/ps3 games sometime are so good they are a greatest hit, so it's like 20% cheaper)

the old fallout game fanbase isn't very big compared to all the people who played FO3 and expected more exploration, random encounters etc, the environment isn't that great, the map was too barren, it might of been a desert but you don't leave the map in a open world game so empty, thats not fun for a lot of people and it kills long term replayability, and the game is only 20 dollars now for a reason, cause it ain't selling that well, thats the bottom line, its not 20 dollars cause its flying off the shelves, these game distributers are stuck with tons of copies of the game, it was still worth the money i payed for it but i ain't playing it again unless a dlc breathes life into the entire new vegas map area, otherwise i'm waiting for for FO4 as far as fallout goes. and i'm pretty confident tons of people feel the same exact way, but they aren't gonna be on here cause most of the people who bought it when it came out are done with it.

This is your opinion, a mere reduction of price in a game does not make your opinion fact.

I am weary, i see know that you two are highly opinionated, as i am myself, but i at least try to conduct myself with a bit of respect, many many times these arguments of "empty world, nothing to shoot, no exploring" have been refuted and sometimes disproven, but it wont end, eventually the "majority" will get there way and a classic rpg franchise will become a generic mainstream shooter...

What's this false accusation that there will be a fallout 4?

Windows 7 cost money, and its a scam, sincerely

In other words

High Prices=/=High Quality

Why I should pay more for a game that I dont like?

So far Fallout 3 and New Vegas have the same price here ($ 34,00)

So, good games cost more money? nope, not for me at least, Games like Red Dead Redemption have cost alot here, yet is a boring game, so does GTA IV,

Also, keep in mind that the prices varies from each country sometimes, more cheaper doesnt means less quality, by that logic, the old games are bad quality just for being old games, or Window XP, for the same reasons, considering that is the last stable sistem ever created by Microsoft, yet is more cheaper then various years ago

Just look at what westoftherockies is saying. He says if better than me. (even though he doesn t use a line break)

Everything he says is true. The masses r not buying the game I bought and think its worth the $64 00 u bought it and think the same, problem is we won t be enough. In todays world copies of fallout must sell. If it loses over half of its value within 6 months something is wrong

I was suprised to see it at $30.00, but $20.00 is just bad for buisness.

I doesn t matter how much a few compared to many like it.

I tried to point out what was wrong all you guys were like no no no cl is hard there is alot to do why do you need to have "mindless exploring" on a giant map.

The price drop shows fo3 held its value for like 3 years......nv 5 months There you have it........... This^^^^^^^^ is why you need mindless exploring, and stuff to kill, more stuff like Black mt. Less stuff like the rest of the map.

I never write stuff just to write stuff. I look at the whole picture.......

What he says and has always said is him acting like his own opinion is fact, even though people have refuted his conjectures many times.

Edit: I just looked it up, Fallout 3 sells for around 7 dollars, vanilla, and about 20 for GOTY, and NV sells for, at least, 20, actually going up to 60 for collectors.

I hear ya. Also pre-ordered and no regrets! We are all in denial. :vaultboy:


Don't give him more ammunition, let him live in his own world.
We all know how it goes, someone rebuts his opinion=facts types of arguments and he stays silent afterwards(guess that means he agrees after all). It's like an never-ending circle bliviongate:

Something I've noticed...

Call of Duty 4 is about a third of its release price on Amazon, Gamestop is a really expensive place to shop.

It's also over 3 years old.

Sidenote:
I wish Fallout was never turned into a massappeal blockbuster title, but aimed for moderately good sales with an audience of its own. We wouldn't have these very enlightening "Pricedrop? Ah hah, the game is full of [censored] afterall -- No it isn't" -conversations, nor would we have as much as polarized arguments about what should and shouldn't be, nor would the upcoming sequel(s) suffer from the massmarket-massappeal streamlining pressures so much (nor would the games already done have suffered from it). Things would be so much better. :sadvaultboy:

Why leads you to believe there will not be an fo4 and more????

also, there have been sales on the PS3 version of the DLC, but no the steam. Is the PS3 not selling as well? I want a steam sale too! 2 for 1 on Dead Money/Honest Hearts would be nice lol

The thing is the only people on here that see absolutely nothing wrong with nv and every thind wrong with fo3 is the old fanbase.

Old fanbase if blinded so much by their hatred of Bethesda they fail to see that Bethesda s fallout was alot more fun.

Bethesda didn t buy it to only sell it to the old fan base, because it would not have made enough, so there would have been no reason buying it.

If I was an old fallout fan I d be proud that the story of fo could trasfer 19 years later and be in high demand by all. Betheda made 1 fo you don t know what they ll do with others

They needed it to make a splash, and it did. No knows what fo4 will be like. I m sure they are watching what Obsidian is doing and take some of that, and add it to their fo.

Only a small marker dev comp could get fo and keep it afloat just for old fanbase, and it would not be as good as what Bethesda has the potential to do for everyone.

If you're going to make accusations like that, start providing evidence.

You say the 'old' fans hate Bethesda. Why is it then many of them are waiting eagerly for Skyrim? Why is it many of them enjoyed Morrowind and Oblivion? All of them Bethesda games.

Critsizing some elements that weren't as good as the originals is not the same as hating Fallout 3 or Bethesda. I -like many others of the old fans- found Fallout 3 to be a decent game on many levels, it just fell short in a few areas.


Having seen your argumentive and baiting posts its clear you're posting such things to get a reaction from people.

On topic: a price reduction is NOT, I repeat NOT always a reflection of quality. Any big name game that has a multiplayer component -especially one as popular as COD- is going to stay at a higher price for longer. People want to play with their friends online, they need to buy the game, they'll pay the asking price.

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I love Bethesda games, lemme stick up your butt, I LOVE, LOVE Bethesda games.

There are many things wrong with FNV. Its not hard enough, too much combat, not enough lore, not realistic, no map nodes, graphics svck, combat svcks.

Even with those issues, it is a major step in the right direction toward Fallout 1, which is undeniably the best Fallout game of all time. And I agree, Bethesda games are fun, but they ruined Fallout lore, cant you [censored] understand that? Why can't you?

What is Activision took the Elder Scrolls, turned it into a racing game, and broke lore on almost every front. How would you feel?

To join the choire... Where are these people who see nothing to criticise in New Vegas? Where are these people that hate Bethesda? Also, please point out what did I fail to see in Fallout 3 that made it alot more fun.



If they weren't going to make the game a representative of its roots on more than just superficial levels, what was the point of buying the IP in the first place? In my opinion Fallout would be better off without attempting to please everyone (not saying broadening the fanbase is a bad thing or needless, just the magnitude of it), because now it lacks clear focus, and the attempts to please everyone eats up half the potential.

So bottom line NV priced dropped fast because the game is dull and boring you see the same things over and over and over again its basically like reading a book with 4 differnt last pages

Same with Fallout 3 :toughninja:

No, the reason its price dropped was because of over stock. The game sold like crazy, but then people dumped it after other games came out. 2011 is a mad year for games. Bethesda shipped too many copies, and not all are sold.

When Fallout 3 came out, there were no other good games out for a while.

I think what some people fail to realize is that this is a powersaver sale and ends sometime in April. Where more then likely Fallout New Vegas will jump back to it's original price. Besides I think it took the same amount of time for Fallout 3 to drop to twenty too. So "LOL FALLOUT3 svckS LOL" If we're playing this game.

God, this forum sometimes.

I heard this phase since 2002.