:goodjob:

V nice poem Foxy.

A little http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5793/memento.png for the player home/s after completing the quest.

I`m thinking of a new style for the Slavers, currently they look like raiders.

I was thinking that since Kaiser is like a slaver/pimp. He should have a Suit, so I made http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4024/newsuit.png .

Then I thought, if he`s dressed like this his boys should be in suits too. Just regular suits though, probably retexture them to be blood soaked.... Any thoughts/critisisms?

Attentater5 has says he has almost finished with the dialogue/quest. That shoots us up to about 90% complete.

Just the scripted events, a few more tweaks to do, certainly fix the navmesh and its all done!!!

I`m exited for an Alpha playthrough.

Big thanks all round to Attentater5 for volunteering to help, and coming good on his word so quickly!

Thanks

Skykappa

Edit: Since we are almost wrapped up so quickly. We have 10 days until the deadline.

I wrote some dialogue between Kaiser and the player, Attentater5 has asked to edit it, so I`m not sure exactly how its going to go yet. But it was bothering me that he didnt have a voice.

If Sesom has the time to generate the LIP files and would be willing to do it within the deadline.

Would anyone with recording equipment be willing to record the lines of Kaiser? Can be in an American, British or German accent...... Preferably a German accent talking like an afro-american gangster stereotype.

If not, its no big deal. It`s probably fine with just dialogue. I just want this to be as professional as it possible can.

ohhhh myyy goshhh, are we that CLOSE? 10 days. woooow. time flew! the SUIT IS AMAZING lol. my bf is going to be so excited!!! omg lmao this is so much fun i would be willing to do the lines in german, and then someone can make my voice go manly? LOL. then the screen can just translate? oh, but my sound might have been too much work to clean up, i forgot. eek. well, if you would like, i can be last resort hahha.

but WOOOW. wow. wow. : ) wow. omg 10 days? i am going to be .. wow. wow.

and foxy, you know i have to save all of your words, right? lol

Ah, guys, I just made a huge mistake. I opened up The Pitt, to look at how some things were done. I then opened up the mod later, and found that it was dependent on The Pitt. Thinking that was an error of mine, and that it would be problematic, I deleted the mod, redownloaded it... only to find that it was meant to be dependent on The Pitt.... Arggggggg!! Fortunetely, it didn't take long, I should be back where I was within a few hours.

There was a tool for Oblvion you may be able to use to rid yourself of the esm dependency, I can't remember, was it tes gecko, or tes snip?
Anyone remember?

Has anybody actually tested the mod in-game yet? It crashes every time I go to an exterior cell.

Do what I do, blame a four year old


I've been testing the same version you DL-ed. I've come across a few minor goofs as well. But since I have my son running around atm I'm not really in a good position to elaborate just now... I'll post a comprehensive test report this evening -I hope, my son's energy levels pending..
I haven't had it crashing upon going from an interior to an exterior cell, and I was doing that a lot! -I think it might be a little too difficult :unsure: kept getting my ass kicked

the catwalk stairs that goes around the outside exterior needs some tweaking.. and maybe a few more guardrails laid out.. -I fell off a few times, most embarrassing..
also, Puffy's character didn't have her "hair on" and was walking around with a huge red on her head..
the screens that close off the toilet bucket corner seems to "trap" a few raiders in there whom then become very difficult to get rid of

I really, really like my staircase

Also, from a design point of view: I had put in all those window frames on the outside, with "Black planes" behind them to make the window look black. It doesn't seem to be working for me, all I see are the empty window frames with the wall showing behind them.. Not my desired effect.
Any ideas what's going wrong in that department? I looked at the "black plane" and it didn't seem to wanna be black, just transparent :/
If it can't be made to look like real windows then I would just as happily do without, since the window frame by itself doesn't work for me.. Also, getting rid of them will save memory :hehe:
When Attentater is done with the scripting, I'll give it a full service going over testing, and I'll fix the above (although the missing hair has to do with me not running the hair mod and the meshes somehow being misplaced I guess...)


Andy

No problem if you are ok with a german accent, i can make the recordings and the lip files. You can hear my voice and the recording quality in my mod "Friendly New Neighbours" (i did all characters which are voiced yet) or in the videos i made.

@ Sesom, A German Accent is exactly what I want! Talking like an American Rap Gangster though.
If you can do it, please do, that would be great! Can you forward to Attentater5 to add when your done? Thank you so much!

@ Attentater5, Sorry you had to redo everything. Probably my bad. I should have mentioned the Pitt master dependancy. I just assumed you`d been keeping up with the thread. Sorry Man.

Please can you forward your updated script when youve finished writing it to Sesom, so he can record the lines for Kaiser? Thanks Buddy.

I never had any issue with crashing BTW, interior or exterior. It hasn`t ever crashed even once for me at all and I`ve ran the mod a lot, so I`m not sure whats going on there. As Andy suggested, may be something local to your installation only. (I hope!!!! lol)

@ Old_Andy, My bad on not mentioning the Hair, it no big deal. It falls under the catagory of one of the other tweaks left for me to finish. I didn`t want Puffy to have to download and install the Hair pack or the Eyelashes herself, so I took out the master dependancy and just havent added them back in to our ESP yet. Just ignore the fact she has a red triangle hat for now. I`m trying to make installation simpler for her.

The exterior windows, they look black in GECK, but they have Alpha enabled in-game. Theres a model for Dirty glass in my Destructible mod pack that would look good if you want to use that instead of getting rid of all the windows, it`ll get some really nice reflected sunlight effects then as I gave the glass high specularity texturing.

@Yevic, F03Edit or F03snip can remove master dependancies, but then so can GECK, just highlight the master in the data loading window and hit `delete`. We cant remove The Pitt master dependancy from this mod though because it uses a scaffolding resource from The Pitt.

@ Puffy, Yup very soon you`ll be on one knee. No changing you mind now. lol

Many thanks to All.

Skykappa

@Attentater
It's my fault, not Skykappa's. When I made the building I used Pitt catwalks on the outside without realizing it, and when I was done I kinda went -oops, this won't be a problem, will it? Puffy puppy said shr had the DLC so I went ahead with it :hehe:

@Skykappa
okido, she looks funny though
Also, Kaiser is unkillable, annoying since I wasn't but gawd he sure knows how to use that baseball bat -mean looking thing too :nod:
Use dirty glass :facepalm: I could have thought of that.
Ok then, I'll do that as soon as the voice acting is done..
Or should I do it now, and then upload my copy of the .esp and have you merge them -or someone merge them, as long as it's not me
And I'll also take care of the few details I mentioned.
I'll also look into the navmesh some more, no promises though :unsure:
One bright spot: I think the navmesh warnings are due to the way navmesh is linked from one exterior landscape cell to the next. When I look at the navmesh there are these green beams that seperate the different cells but seem to connect the different triangles together and where the building was put it seems that this 'connector' isn't connecting parts of one cell with the adjacent cell. As far as I can tell this only has relevance for NPCs and companions who will then seemlingly for no reason walk around an invisible barrier instead of following you directly..

Back to the laboratory
Andy

wow, you guys. if we were all local, i would throw parties for every step in the process, or to mark every big hurdle that has been overcome. or just,...a party every weekend lol. i don't know. i just feel like a party, now. after the latest reads lol. i wish i could throw you all a project party. GRRR! where is Trump on drugs handing out cash when you need him?

i am so excited about the accent for the pimp! and the discoveries and the problem solving. tonight i have to get ready for comic con by means of the art show.

Yeah I know Kaiser is unkillable, its just because the set essential flag is active. I haven`t make a new faction for slavers yet for them all to be a part of, so I was finding that when I went to go look at thim, he`d been killed by the raiders, so I just set him as essential in the mean time. No need for Bug reports yet Buddy. Wait until alpha when we all think its done. Theres`s lots going on there that could be called a bug, but its just that mod is unfinished yet.

I like the Spiked Bat too. IMHO the game should have one anyway, that`s why I made it. I take it you couldn`t resist having a go at him them? lol Player gets to have the Spiked Bat if they kill him.

If Attentater5 sends me the esp when he and Sesom are done (thanks again guys), and you do everything you want to do at your convenience, Windows, exterior Navmesh ect. I`ll combine the 2, add a few more things that I have planned, then its Alpha phase time.

Thanks Andy for all your work and effort. And if you do manage to find time to add in the windows, I`m sure it`ll add a whole other level of visual awesome to your already fantastic building.

You could try posing in the GECK forum about the Navmesh error? Someone must have come across it before! I would do it myself, but I doubt if i`d understand the answer lol.

Thanks all round.

Skykappa


Edit: Hi Puffy. Have fun with the Art show. When its released, and he says yes, there will be a party in my head and everyones invited. lol

I read forum threads like most people watch tv, and when I started reading this thread (the first one) I was quite entertained. A group of modders working together to a final very worthy goal, well that, and it kinda ballooned out of proportion with the mention of "you could do it in paradise falls, but I've got this skyscraqer that you could use...." and with all the rest of the stuff, this is turning into a mod I'd wanna play rather than it being just built for this one proposal situation. If anyone needs help testing it, or anything else I'm willing to try and help any way I can, my main skill being google-fu (the ability to find anything on the Internet using the right google search terms, usually in a matter of seconds) but I'm a quick study. I love fallout 3, have all the dlc and would do anything to help this project succeed.

gamer abzman2000, reporting for duty sir!

And thus our 'herd' grows with one more animal!!! Yay!

*sorry been watching too much Ice Age!!!

this is a continuation of the in game proposal thread right? whats goin on now? i dont have time to sift through 9 pages =p

Well, as lond as we get the rights to calling you a lazy bugger, no problem


We're down to the ninth, bases loaded, Skykappa just came in on a technical, nobody out and Attentater is up to bat with me trying to steal third...
It's a fast ball and........
that svcker just got tattooed outta the park..
I tell ya, anything that flies that far oughta have a stewardess on board serving drinks.
:huh:
If you understood that then you are smarter than me.
Basically:
it's been built,
Skykappa poured all kinds of flavour over it,
Attentater is laying down some scripting,
I'm plugging a few beauty patches and we're a week ahead of schedule!!!!!!
(thats the bit that tickles me: a week ahead of schedule. Freakin' brilliant)

And there's an illegal picutre on the picutes thread of me looking for the address of the building
Lazy bugger.
Sorry, couldn't resist

(off topic but who cares)
Also, I got lucky this evening at a bech rave and I have a date tomorrow, so....
Dont wait up for the old guy :hehe:




Acolyte cant believe it either. Not only is she's mega sweet and hot, and she has 20/20 vision... go figure :twirl:

Congrats on the hot date Andy.

I hope it goes well and good luck.

Im sure you`ll charm her socks off.

Just make sure Akky stays at home. Three`s a crowd, especially with him.

Mabye we`ll help make a mod for you too someday!

Skykappa

You've got to be [censored] kidding me.

I just spent about 2^1/2 hours finalizing the quest itself, as well as creating the radio station, and quests/scripts associated with it. I realized (with some horror) that I haven't saved yet, so I hit save.

The GECK crashes. I lose all of my work.

Honestly, I don't want to work on it anymore today. I'll get back and hopefully finish within the next 2 or 3 days.

Unless... does the GECK have some sort of auto-recover function? If it periodically makes backups or something, I can have it uploaded later tonight.

Holy FREAKING [censored] this mod has more twists and turns than a soap opera!!!

i hope i hope i hope there's some way the data gets saved...

Look in the ...Fallout3/Data/Backup folder. There should be some backups if the geck is in standard configuration.

It seems to just create backups every time you save. Which I didn't do.

*Hatemyself*

No worries Attentater5.

It happens to all of us sometimes.

You still havent beaten Andy tragic record though!

I highly recommend enabling the 5 min Autosave option in the GECK preferences though. Since I discovered it, I swear by it.

Did you forward your re-write of Kaisers lines to Sesom to record?

Thanks Buddy.

Skykappa

how sad, i am so sorry Attentater5. i want you to know that i appreciate the work that you did the 1st time around and even moreso, the stuff that has yet to come, because it has twice the "umph" behind it. wow, that is so tragic. maybe it's just karma, and that was left over from a past life, and now, once the project is over, you will win the lottery or something to make up for it. i hope you all win lotteries.

tuesday is our 2 yr anniv. so i am going to his house tomorrow, spending tues. with him after he gets off work and then going to work the next day. i told him i will have part of his anniv. present for tues. the other half while we are at comic con. so i am just preparing the ammo box as a "care package" kinda knick-knack collective gift. i'm falling asleep at the computer after having done bottle caps lol.

good night you guys, and i hope things start looking better, i am sorry for the misfortune and stress. thank you!

@Attentater
Welcome to the club

@the rest
Redoing the windows I came across something.. It's one of those "beautiful from afar, far from beautiful" kinda things. It looks ok from a distance, but pretty crap up close because you see the outside structure through the glass..
Something else, the LOD cuts out when I'm only about 500 meter away from it, and the building disappears.
For reference, if I'm standing next to the ruined church, the building is not visible. When it ought to be visible all the way from Jury street Metro...
Still working on the navmesh...

@Puffy Puppy
:celebration:

Andy

Andy,

That means that you don't in fact have a LOD to show (which is why it cuts out). Or if you have generated the LOD, something is foul with it.

Luck,

M