The enemy markers which show up on your compass to indicate friend or foe is really handy. Just been playing oblivion and i had to actually get up close to anyone before i shot them just incase they were friendly and didnt attack me. (Most of which did attack me and i was close and lost out on my sneak bonus.)

This was fixed in fallout 3, so hopefully will be in TES:Skyrim.



Yeah yeah pointless thread is pointless, never know they might overlook it and we'll all be shooting our mates

Wasn't ever an issue for me. I can tell when someone is my enemy and not friendly because they, you know, attack.

Nothing wrong with addressing something that botherd you in a previous game right? I did not have any problems with distinguishing enemies and allies.

Some of us like to use the enemy as a pincushion before they attack

Right.... But the OP wants to know before he loses the sneak bonus. I prefer Oblivion's style, though. I shouldn't be privy to that info. It's weird.

No. This isn't Call of Duty.

That helps that stealth players/archers... how?

He meant while you were sneaking

A few times I see people in caves, and I wonder "this could be just some random adventurer/person who needs help" (especially when they don't look like regular bandits)

I sneak up behind them, stand up and have them turn around and attack me. If I knew they were an enemy I could have gotten a sneak attack bonus, but instead I had to expose myself to see if they were friendly or not
Adding the red tick is something I personally don't like, due to it ruining the mood of cave raiding "Did I just sneak attack and murder a bunch of hidden refugees/miners?" "WTF? I didn't see that giant spider/dragon hiding behind that corner"

Just adding dialogue that can give you a hint to who you are looking at would be perfect IMO

Enemy indicator? God no! Skyrim's no shooter, it's and RPG. ; )

Well if your friendlies can see you then your sneak isn't really "sneaky", right? Oblivion had it right. If somebody sees you then your sneak is blown. That's fine. I was always a sneaky player and it never bothered me. I think it would be too easy if you got the sneak bonus while you're seen by somebody else.

IIRC when horses saw you your sneak was blown. THAT is something that should be changed. A horse can't be like "hey, he's gonna kill you".

:rolleyes: Well ofcourse it isn't. But why are we comparing this game to another based on a feature 100s of other games have? I mean really. This isn't CoD, it isn't Fallout, and it isn't any of the other games that do that.


We aren't copying another game here. We are throwing out a suggestion that is in many many popular games.

With that comment you made me afraid. I don't want to see some big cross in the screen when i am looking at friendly npc's

if they incorporated this into detect life that would be awesome

If they are attacking then you've already lost the sneak bonus.



Really? I'v shot countless people in dungeons who just wanted to give me a hug .

Thank god some of the main quest givers are marked as essential... some but not all lol.



Exactly, I want to be able to shoot first and ask questions later without ruining my savegame.



Although i do like being ambushed so the compass thing maybe needs worked on, Maybe if you just aim at an enemy your crosshair turns red or something.

(Could be plenty of mods to turn it off if it ruins your immersion or you're just L33T and like shooting people 2ft away.)

You should try using mods that add people to the game world. CM partners did this, and boy you could get into real trouble if you shoot first. That is if you don't want to have a thousand assaults and a few dozen murders on your record.

As for the compass marker, I think you'd need a pip boy to discern friend or foe. Since they don't exist in Tamriel I guess we'll have to be more careful.

I'm pretty sure that if it's a dragon you can go ahead and shoot the blasted thing. I understand that they can pick you up, drag you into the sky and drop you. I wonder if giants can do it too.

Doubt it'll be in Skyrim.

1) Fallout series =/= TES series

2) much more of the combat in the Fallout game is ranged - the enemy markers help balance that

3) additionally, your Fallout character has a Perception stat/ability beyond what you the player has. The enemy markers are part of the representation of that.

:thumbsup: Exactly. No magic IFF (Information, Friend or Foe) transponders in TES, please...unless implemented somewhat like the "Detect Life" spell, only "Detect Evil/Good," or "Detect Hostility" or somesuch.

I can see someone modding to make one but honestly I think it takes the immersion out. I just like to rely on listening to voices and music change to indicate I am being attacked. I would much rather look at the screen instead of a corner all the time to see red arrows or dots or something.

I just think it doesn't make sense to be able to instantly tell if something is friendly or not just by looking at them. Part of the thrill of the dungeons in Morrowind and Oblivion comes from stumbling upon friendly NPCs, or approaching seemingly harmless ones and then having them pull a claymore out of their pants! :toughninja:

Pressing the quick save button before every kill could help.

this could be another easy mode-only feature. If you think about it, if the same situation were to happen in real life, you wouldn't automatically be able to tell if a person is friendly or not.

I am against it, sorry. In other games mainly shooters it was useful but here I'm trying to visualise this through the eyes of my characters and all the gadgets like compass, quest compass, magnetism are preventing me from having the feeling of being there just me, the enemies and the technology available in that world.

Everyone refer to my second post in the thread, please. I wasn't aware that he was talking about sneaking. And when I post I do tend to appear as negative, but I'm not. Just straight forward opinions usually.

Well you shouldn't get assaults/murders for killing people in dungeons/wilderness anyway
I must've killed loads of those crusader-types who hung around outside Daedric shrines
My motto was

Never had a problem with this. Even whilst using a stealth character.