please before you judge read all of it: (its all about skyrim PC)
Note: im not been negative its just the facts out there and i still be getting skyrim for pc.

ok so bethesda and ID software developed and worked together to make Rage for a few years, im currently playing it, you can even find Vault figures from fallout 3 in the game, anyway the game is started from consoles and then ported to pc, now the game is out, and i must say it is a total mess i never played a game from ID nor from bethesda that had such a broken product.

my point is, that bethesda and ID software, a few years back, i dunno how, they came to realize that hey console are great and we can develop on console and port to pc.(a real statment).
and now after releasing the first product which was supposed to be a blockbuster, became a total mess that any developer will be ashamed of.

now what is scary about it is that Skyrim, started development around the same time work has began on rage, they took the same idea, to develop from console and port to pc.

and the reason im so upset is this:

Johnn Carmack admits he did a mistake!

rage was a mistake he wont be doing again.

read this it is a must:
http://www.firingsquad.com/news/newsarticle.asp?searchid=23760


if you realize what it means, is that it isnt good!,

for example, Rage didnt have any video settings at all for the pc, which is a must since PC have unlimited different builds, so players must adjust setting, and johann carmack just realized that developing on Consoles and then porting to pc doesnt go well.

dont say bethesda said they will make a good port, thats what they said about rage, in fact the game playable demo was looking great and worked great on pc, but on release it is total mess.

EDIT:

for those who did not understand what is it about, this is about- Developing a game on Consoles (Xbox,PS3,) and then porting it to pc. that is what was done with Rage, and it was a mess, thats what they are doing with Skyrim,
Johann carmack which is a great mind in gaming, stated it is a big mistake to develope on console then port to pc. that is what is all about! (carmack is developing games since doom first came out, if he said its a mistake, he knows)

this wont end well King. oh and that article is from June 8th, if he -really- cared. chances are rage would not be in the state it is in today.

No it won't. His thread earlier was locked.

BTW, majority of reviews are glistening.

I wish people would think before they post. I really do.

Im pretty sure Bethesda said they where designing Skyrim mainly for the PC could be wrong though

Why in the world are you posting something about a programmer talking about a completely different game from a completely different department? I mean it has no bearing on Skyrim at all.

why not im hurting and not breaking any rule, in fact im bethesda client and fan since ever. and like i said i will still be getting skyrim.

Oblivion was fine for PC, so I have no reason to doubt that Skyrim will be.

i can tell you didnt read it all...

when john carmack admits he [censored] up, you know its bad :sadvaultboy: .

we'll just have to see on release though, as the refuse to show us any PC footage or screens (not a very good sign...). it looks like the unofficial patch team might be needed more than ever...

Please answer my question this literally has nothing to do with skyrim, so why in the hell did you post it?

... but this isnt related to skyrim at all >.< F**KING IM DOCTOR OCTOGONOPUS! D:<

they werent made by the same poeple.

What if I told you Oblivion was a game completely designed for PC hardware then ported to the 360 and later the PS3, but Skyrim is primarily a 360 game ported to the other platforms? What if I also pointed out Bethesda's incredibly poor history with technical work and, especially, porting?

can you read before you reply on a topic!? did you even see what it is about?!

Haha my thoughts exactly

WE READ IT. AND THE LAST ONE TOO.

and we answered, this is completely irrelevant.

Not agreed. If you're to judge everything from the average of the time it was made, you'll end up shooting yourself, because you won't belive in anything anymore.

If what Einstein's colleages were all stupid, and he were judged so, maybe he wouldn't become what he is known for today. No, not a damn crazy old man, but a respectful scientist.

Don't judge a book by its cover... Mistakes are made so we can prevent them the next time, Rage and Skyrim "started tha same time"? So we'll be glad that Skyrim isn't released until 11/11, so they could improve more on the game.

Peace, out!

i dont even know what rage is, but i know its not skyrim, and bethesda isnt gonna ruin the elder scrolls... im sure the PC version will be fine.

even with the few people who complained about oblivion, they had the construction set and mods to turn it into what they wanted, same will be for complainers about skyrim.

No I read it you posted a man talking about screwing up the development of rage from ID software. While bethseda owns them they don't really control them, nor do they share the same teams, or technology. So it really has nothing to do with Skyrim in any way shape, or form. Just more [censored] [censored]s like you have been putting on these forums suffocating them recently. With absolute nonsense.

First, Bethesda and id... did NOT develop Rage together. Bethesda (Zenimax Media in particular) has joined houses with id as their publisher. Publishing a game and developing a game are very different realms of the industry.

Secondly, John Carmack has more intellect and wisdom in this industry than almost anyone else, and he's very hard on himself when developing an engine. He has made several "mistakes" that he wish he had more time to implement to its full potential; which I am assuming he is going to try and do for the next installments in the series as Rage apparently ends on quite a cliffhanger.

Rage looks absolutely fantastic. The engine is a masterpiece, and absolutely genius in almost all areas of its function. Don't slander Carmack or Beth if you don't know what you're talking about.

Thirdly, the game runs incredibly fast at a steady 60FPS. The fact that Carmack was able to display as much detail and geometry on screen while maintaining lightning fast rendering and reaction time.. is simply awe inspiring.

Last but not least.. PC is where it's at, even though I disagree with everything you've said.

Agreeeeeeeeeeee.... :facepalm:

Bethesda's technical team is honestly undoubtedly worse. I'd say the Rage problem is a huge deal if only because this is the failure of John Carmack. Anyone who knows anything about the history of computer game programming should be able to decipher the problem with this.

Thanks for posting this, i'll be sure to keep this news in mind during my night sweats. :rolleyes:

Eh, they (the modders) will probably fix it anyway.

When have they ever made a good port? :whistling: And at least the Rage demo was playable and worked on the pc, far as we know Skyrim has never even run on a PC. :tongue:

So yeah, some of us are already worried. Nothing that can be done about it though.