Sorry for this, but lookin for computer advice -

Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:08 pm

Luckily for me, I can just look at the numbers my lenovo laptop gives and compare them to, for example, a 2000€ msi laptop with 1 strong gpu.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:56 am

What, your €1800 Lenovo? Notebookcheck.net, the numbers are all there. A $1000 Lenovo isnt even close to a $1400 MSI. But hey the OP can get a Lenovo if he wants, his choice. The particular computer mentioned in the link is a bad choice regardless of being Lenovo or otherwise. And Lenovo is pretty bad overall. But cheap.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:20 am

If you followed the thread you might know i was talking about heat..

Anyway, comparing a 1000$ laptop against a 1400$ one is kinda pointless, of course the pricier one will be better but that's a 40% increase in price.

At that price point, you cannot find a better laptop, it's as simple as that.

A desktop would of course be much better.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:30 am


Might be a little extra, but laptops can run everything fine for high end.

They're expensive, sure, but if you're just gaming they're not bad.
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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:06 pm

It's not the worst laptop in the world for the price. While it's not going to run a serious single player FPS with decent settings, it should run ESO just fine.

If the point is to get a good gaming laptop generally, then you can't even think in that price range.

Personally I don't see the fascination with laptops. They're expensive and not cheap to fix when they break down, and they're all prone to breaking down.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 12:56 pm

If gaming is yout motivation for purchading a machine never get a laptop. Ppl who say they are fine do not understand the difference in mobile chipsets being designed to use far less power like from a battery.

You can slap flame stickers on a pinto and floor it to get speeding tickets too but it will never be a race car.
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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:01 am

It is ok. Understand though that as a laptop its performance will suffer for multiple reasons compared to a similarly equipped desktop.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:03 am

That's kind of a vague statement. I think his specs on that laptop are more than adequate to run this game on ultra at 60fps.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:07 pm

Desktops rule PC gaming, laptops are not going to be the prefered choice for serious PC gaming. You might be able to run it but you are always going to be gimped compared to a desktop PC gamer running wired internet.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:57 am

OK let me clarify :)

All the stats on gaming laptops are what we call "low power" equivalents of desktop equipment. So the specs as listed are not parallel to normal hardware. They have their own rating system that is designed to deceive the consumer and oversell the system. See if you can find the total wattage and amp draw on the power supply for example. If you can compare it to even a cheap desktop one. This will be your biggest bottle-neck.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:44 am

I see your point now. I gotcha.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:46 am

Laptops are great for work that goes between school and work and home etc, but honestly if your going to be gaming from home your going to be MUCH MUCH better off using a desktop

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:18 pm


My WiFi is just fine for MMOs...*points to link in Signature*
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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:14 am

this exactly

OK let me clarify :smile:

All the stats on gaming laptops are what we call "low power" equivalents of desktop equipment. So the specs as listed are not parallel to normal hardware. They have their own rating system that is designed to deceive the consumer and oversell the system. See if you can find the total wattage and amp draw on the power supply for example. If you can compare it to even a cheap desktop one. This will be your biggest bottle-neck.

and in summation

bottom line is laptops are used and sold as supposedly being great for gaming but in truth they will never perform at the same level as a desktop no matter how hard fans try to claim they will, if you game from places like coffee shops etc then great a laptop is for you but IF you are gaming from home there is no logical reason whatsoever to choose a laptop for gaming over a desktop AS A NORM, there are exceptions of course that boil down to personal preference

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:34 am

I actually own that same laptop, and are typeing on it right now, I love it, I am able to run crysis 3 on full ultra maxed out smooth at 40-60 fps during the beta I would run ESO on full maxed out ultra settings and would have 60 FPS (I use the fram rate capper (reduces heat even thou heat isnt as much of an issue, as well as v-sync)

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:05 am

And more-so than anyone else who is basing info off of bias opinions, Thank you for providing a answer with concrete (as far as the internet allows) backing.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:17 am

lol, what internet service is that?

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:35 am

you sir...are trolling the trolls I think.

you'll be fine with the lenovo. not sure about ultra in pvp. ignore the haters.

I like to be mobile as well and considered laptops before building possibly my last desktop last fall. believe it or not i just move my pc from room to room (whereever the wife and kids aren't) and set up on whatever monitor is convenient in that room. I built a i7 4770k with a geforce GTX780 with 3 or 4 gb..think its the Gigabyte windforce on a 850w PSU adn a bunch of ram, water cooled, etc... I hooked it up to my Sony Bravia and i get ridic performance on ultra.

Think you'll be fine with the Lenovo. They aren't horrible btw.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:40 am

That definitely will be enough for ESO @ ultra.

[EDIT]

Regarding gaming in general. Well, I'd always prefer a decent tower pc over a laptop for serious gaming.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:32 am

It's Penn State University's student WiFi... they have a direct line to Comcast I believe haha.

And to answer your OP:

Laptops can be solid gaming machines, don't let people tell you otherwise.

That Lenovo is a solid system, and will be plenty capable of running ESO with great settings most of the time. I do, however, have some reservations about this computer for ESO specifically and I'll explain why (in detail first and a TL; DR).

ESO boasts the feature of massive PvP battles with minimal graphical lag, and it does this very well. The rendering algorithms, spell effect toggles, etc.absolutely do a great job in reducing the toll on your graphics card; however, they cannot change the physical amount of players that your computer needs to keep track of, anolyze, etc. This task falls upon your processor.

Your GPU is great at creating pretty images, effects, sharpening edges, etc, etc. but it's your processor that is number crunching positions, damage, anything with variables really. Because of this, these major Cyrodiil battles are very demanding on your processor even while your GPU's fan might have not even turned on yet.

The reason for all this back info is because of processor that Lenovo chose to go with. Although it is an i7 quad core, 2.4 ghz is on the low side for a gaming rig with ESO in mind, and may struggle on massive battles without significant overclocking.

Before we can go ahead and bash Lenovo for using this processor, I will also explain why they went with this setup. Games that are more processor intensive than GPU intensive are far and few between. The only other game I personally know of off the top of my head like this is ArmA with its massive map. 95% of games are more GPU based and this laptop with dual 750s would be great for them. It is a great laptop, but was simply not designed with ESO in mind.

And if it would "ease your mind" in knowing, I'm a senior majoring in Computer Science and Engineering.

TL; DR: GPU = quality, Processor = quantity. This laptop would run Skyrim much better than ESO
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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:25 pm

Thanks for the feedback. On the contrary from you, I actually prefer to play in whatever room the fiance is in! Because in this manor we both win, she gains my company while I get to play without being [censored]ed at. haha

Thanks for absolutely nothing, you haven't given me anything but opinions in every post. And yes, I have made up my mind - That wasn't the point of the thread. The point was to see if I'd be able to run on Ultra.

Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFIQiLXgEuY

Outstanding. Thanks for the input, it's greatly appreciated.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 5:33 pm

Another few questions, what would be a good program to track CPU temperature (if there is one?) and what is considered to be good/mildly high/high temperatures that I should watch for?

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:10 pm

Not sure if it has been mentioned in here yet (too many posts to read) but i read somewhere that SLI is not yet supported by ESO.

That laptop will probably play ESO, but it may struggle on ultra.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:26 am

For an Intel CPU, I would use: http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/ or the all-around: http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

Caveat emptor: I have personally not used these on a laptop before.

This is correct -- SLI is currently not supported per the latest PTS build.

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Post » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:20 am

Okay, I'll look into those programs. Thanks.

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