This is not a vs. thread, I am merely wondering who is the better wizard, I know Sotha Sil achieved goddom, but Divayth Fyr found a cure to corprous (basically equivalent to finding cure for cancer or common cold). I am merely curious.

Moon-and-Star's head advisor (Sotha Sil)?

or

Nerevarine's Savior (Divayth Fyr)

Considering that Divayth's cure didn't work on anyone besides the Nerevarine, I don't think curing one person and then killing the rest who took your "cure" is that big of an acheivement. and he didn't actually cure it anyway, just stopped the symptoms that lead to insanity and physical mutation.

I'd say Sotha Sil personally.

Well, Divayth Fyr isn't dead.

Well he wasn't attacked by a woman with a mind like a half-baked potato thrown agianst a steel ceiling fan who just so happened to have incredible magickal powers.

Exactly this. Divayth's cure failed on everybody else. Sotha Sil was one of the greatest mages of all time. If I am correct, didn't he make a pact with Molag Bal? That must take a lot. That amongst other things.

And @Mirelurk21, yes Sotha Sil may be dead but he was murdered. Could Divayth defeat Almalexia? Don't think so.

I just hate the Tribunal, so w/e.
(Except Vivec)

Oh I hate the Tribunal too, so don't worry about that

Fyr's "cures" have worked on two people. The Nerevarine and it has stopped the mutations and further mental destruction of Yagrum Bagarn, and whose to say that he hasn't had a few donuts since the war of the first council? But, what else has Fyr done? Sotha Sil studied Kagrenac's tools, and learned how to use them to make himself, Vivec, and Almalexia gods to watch over and protect their people without destroying their entire race. Also, I believe that Sotha has Divayth beat in age by a few years, but that point is moot. Sotha has a nicer "home" IMO than Fyr. As much as I like Fyr, and he's an interesting, and brilliant, mer, I have to give it to Sil for achievement and citadel, but not longevity because, as was stated earlier, he's dead.

Exactly this. I couldn't of said it better.

Yagrum is crippled and sometimes barely lucid.He isn't cured like the Nerevarine is because the cureonly worked on the Nerevarine. It killed everyone else.

To be fair, Yagrum has mentioned he had been experimented on, and the cures aren't killing him, but it's not helping him other than it brought most of his sanity back. Having someone attend to him probably helps a lot, even if it is the argonian guard that may wonder around looking for thieves and the clones of Fyr. The growth of corpus has been halted at least, although it's not regressing in anyway physically.

Yes, but if one had he's have totally dominated her... that or there would have been an epic cat-fight once all his wives found out he was in danger...

Well, channelling power you've leeched off the disembodied hearty of a god would give you quite some raw power (and of course, with great power comes great insanity) but how to judge? Raw magical put-out is Sotha Sil hands down, but wisdom? Generosity (he dosen't need to keep the corprus victims guarded from any more harm to study them)? Wit? Knowledge? A dwemer in the basemant? It's really hard to say who would be "better" wizard. Then you have different types of magic to contend with. Is an illusion master better or worse than a master enchanter?

As much as I hate citing obscure texts, http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/sotha_sil.shtml is something that this eternal quest for fleeting truth reminded me of.

Is it worth mentioning that the reason because he's dead is because he knew it was no longer a time for the Tribunal to be alive? If he wanted to, I doubt Almalexia would've been able to kill him. But instead "he didn't say a word."

I don't know about that. He was hooked up to his machine, clockwork city. I wonder if he even was consciously aware of Almelexia. Perhaps he recreated an Aurbis in his head. Either that or we was playing World of Warcraft.

We all know Sil's a video game addict, and that he invented the internet; the retirement home of his used up characters.

I can't honestly decide. I don't like the Tribunal much (besides Vivec), and Sotha Sil may be overall more powerful, but Divayth Fyr is a very interesting character. I love exploring Tel Fyr, he's one of few still-living Dunmer to have known and conversed with the Dwemer, he has an assortment of neat artifacts, and his facial hair could bring the entire province of Morrowind to its knees.

Of course, we never knew Sotha Sil when he was alive so who knows? I think if they were both mortal again, side-by-side, Divayth Fyr would be more likeable. That is to say, I don't like Chimer.

What about Braziler isnt her a better wizard then Divayth. Sotha Sil was more of machines rather then useing Magicka so with these two id have to say Divarenth Fyr.

Woah, Barilzar's female?
Radical.

The King of Worms. (Not the Oblivion imposter)

Godhood is the word I'd use. Goddom sounds like a curse or a weird fusion of Sodom and Gomorrah.






Seht was an accomplished wizard before he ever achieved divinity. His strategies and likely his poisons are what got him into the position he eventually ended up in as a God.

Divath Fyr on the other hand is just awesome and has accomplished many things.

I dunno. The winner is Mudcrab Merchant.

Mhmm. I think much of his later work was derived from/inspired by Dwemer technology. I don't care much for his "robot legs" or whatever the hell those are. I'd love to see an artistic interpretation of what he may have resembled in his full Chimer form - some may be on DeviantArt.

EDIT: Why does everybody say "Divarenth Fyr"? I understand that his name is kinda tricky to spell/pronounce, but "Divarenth" seems to be a fan-favorite misspelling around here. :shrug:

Sotha Sil became dunmer, while VV was half and half, and Alam was still as golden as the day she was born

Source. He looked rather "Chimery" to me when I saw him in Mournhold MQ.