Spears, and armor

Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:57 am

That's a funny statement right there. This one of the most popular subjects on here besides "OMG they removed attributes *cry*".

Even if that wasn't the case, you honestly think this?


Yes, I honestly think this. People need something to cry about...and spears is one of them.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:34 pm

Well I don't use swords, so they serve no purpose to me, so they shouldn't be in the game.

So there.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:04 pm

Are we sure there won't be light medium and heavy armor? We won't specialize in it (no skill relating to it) but even FNV had light/medium/heavy. It also had perks that related to wearing those types of armor.

I'm not convinced they won' be in, but I haven't been keeping up with info recently. Maybe they confirmed no l/m/h armor.


No. OP said he wanted light, medium, and heavy armor type versions of every single armor. For example, he wants a light, medium, and heavy version of Daedric armor. That's not going to happen. There will still be heavy and light armor...just not both heavy and light versions of each armor set.




Well I don't use swords, so they serve no purpose to me, so they shouldn't be in the game.

So there.

I agree. Lets remove swords. And blunts weapons. And bows. Lets remove combat from Skyrim, shall we?
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:27 pm

No. Spears are not needed in the game. Too much work for such a little thing that no one will ever use. Spears aren't going to be in. And I'm happy with Bethesda's decision.:ahhh:



None of that is going to be in Skyrim. :facepalm:


I would most definitely use spears. So am I no one? Jerk . . .

And, you know what, I don't use blunt weapons, so let's just get rid of them. Oh, and stealth too, because I never use that either.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:42 pm

It's confirmed that spears are not going to be in the game. So lets not complain. At least it was confirmed.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:46 am

Nords (Vikings) are masters with spears, be it with a shield 2 handed etc...

Spears are a very versatile weapon, they could either be used as a sort of 300 style poke and throw, or even an oriental martial form which involves sweeps and in general very powerful attacks and coverage!

I WANT SPEARS DX

Also, with the armour variances that would be cool but certain items i.e. Fur Armour should not be allowed to be Heavy Armour, perhaps Light and Medium.

Whereas other armour forms such as Steel can be all 3 (you wear less)

Hopefully Pauldrons, Belts Capes and other accessories make an appearance letting you customize your character even more :D
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:19 pm

I am pretty sure that there will only be an "Armor" skill and you define what type to specialize in through perks.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:39 pm

I view all of the above to be far more important, but I suppose you're right... for someone who really has their heart set on using a spear as their main weapon throughout the entire game, it would svck for them to be excluded. I know i'd be annoyed if either bows or swords were excluded for whatever bizarre reason.


well then you know how people who loved spears feel. if you told me pre oblivion that they would cut the amount of weapons in half I would never have believed you, nor would I if you told me they would cut any weapons. until then I thought bethesda was about adding more to their games rather than making room for astetics.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:45 pm

Lol wow... this topic is great, never actually thought there were people against spears... or is it all for the sake of an argument?
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:36 am

No. OP said he wanted light, medium, and heavy armor type versions of every single armor. For example, he wants a light, medium, and heavy version of Daedric armor. That's not going to happen. There will still be heavy and light armor...just not both heavy and light versions of each armor set.





I agree. Lets remove swords. And blunts weapons. And bows. Lets remove combat from Skyrim, shall we?


Oh gotcha.. that's a tad ridiculous haha. Who would possibly say "hey I made this suit of armor..why not make a lighter version and a heavier version! Or two heavy and heavier versions! Or two light and lightererer versions!"

That's not realistic. Even for TES.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:51 am

ppl who disagree on the implement of spear in the game are idiots,why?because they already have the weapons they like in the game,so they wont care that much,haha imagine bethesta take away two handed sword,axe,swords,they would be rageeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

yea spear is awesome,i use them in any game if its available,if not i would just stick with halberd or swords
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:29 pm

Yes, I honestly think this. People need something to cry about...and spears is one of them.

A lot of people want spears.

You're wrong.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:08 am

I'd like to see spears, but I wouldn't go as far as to call them one of the coolest things one could have in Skyrim, and in any case, they're not going to be in the game, and that's really all there is to it, I highly doubt anything we say now will change it for Skyrim, so while I certainly would like to see spears, I realize it's not happening.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:07 am

Sheo, your statement can be applied the same way if Bows and arrows were removed, or Shields, or Unarmed hand to hand combat, or magick, or horses, or enchantments...etc etc etc...


see the problem here?



I wouldn't compare magic and spears.....more like fire magic and spears....for example
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:24 pm

Yes add The Legendary Spear of Bitter Mercy (TLSoBM) too for argonians only
I would use them once again
EDIT:I think I am high
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:19 pm

:facepalm:


Not this [censored] again
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:29 pm

I beg to differ. There are a lot of us.

Also, all this talk about it being confirmed that there is no spears... How are Bethesda supposed to know if the fanbase doesn't agree with a decision they make if we don't say anything? They may change certain aspects if they feel they should.


Ay we are many and our numbers increasing.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:15 pm

Is this intentionally ironic?

"We are so pissed off, grrr! Why won't you all stop asking us every day about spears in Skyrim? There will be no spears because nobody wants them!"

But anyway, problem is that Todd is in charge, Todd likes Xbox360, and Todd decides what's thrown out of the game and what's left on a basis of Todd liking it or not. Players have little to no say in this.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:16 pm

I've said this thousand times before:
Why don't we have spears? Because nobody could make it work right, without making it under or overpowered or just plain wrong.

Could they make it work if they've concentrated enough on it? Sure, but they'll rather work on something more important than that... like, I dunno, the rest of the game...
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:56 am

Players have little to no say in this.

Players are the ones who buy the game. :shrug:

If Bethesda doesn't give players what they want, they could end up losing a lot of thier customers. Also, MK, this is different to fast travel, quest markers, etc. This isn't a gameplay mechanic that affects the whole game. This is merely a weapon type.

On another note: what is the standard usage of spears in real life? Have they been thrown weapons or melee weapons? Todd said they weren't added in the usual sense (or something along them lines). Perhaps we'll only have them as ranged/melee weapons.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:27 pm

Players are the ones who buy the game. :shrug:

If Bethesda doesn't give players what they want, they could end up losing a lot of thier customers. Also, MK, this is different to fast travel, quest markers, etc. This isn't a gameplay mechanic that affects the whole game. This is merely a weapon type.


I'll be buying it regardless.

Besides, they are adjusting the game for the biggest chunk of audience and that are casual players not unlike Todd. So when they throw stuff out they actually ARE giving what people want.

On another note: what is the standard usage of spears in real life? Have they been thrown weapons or melee weapons? Todd said they weren't added in the usual sense (or something along them lines). Perhaps we'll only have them as ranged/melee weapons.


Anti-cavalry, wall of spikes to keep infantry at a distance.

He probably meant throwing spears from Fallout NV.
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:28 am

I'll be buying it regardless.

But will you continue to buy the game after a good few games, when they've cut the skills down to "armour, weapon and magic"?

Extreme case there, but I think you get my point.


Besides, they are adjusting the game for the biggest chunk of audience and that are casual players not unlike Todd. So when they throw stuff out they actually ARE giving what people want.

I don't actually get this. I know many of the more casual gamers. Every single one has said that they didn't like Oblivion, and don't plan to buy Skryim. Or any Elder Scrolls, for that matter.


Anti-cavalry, wall of spikes to keep infantry at a distance.

He probably meant throwing spears from Fallout NV.

So.. We're likely to have throwing spears? I'm pretty sure spears are confirmed, in one way or another.

I never enjoyed NV much, and didn't get very far, so I'm not sure about the spears there.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 10:57 am

And who are you to say no one will use blunt weapons? But I guess you're right. A small portion of Skyrim's players will use spears as their main weapon. It's just...it's not worth the time and money that Bethesda has.


Yes... Because implementing polearms and various animations for polearms is sooo hard, and would completely deplete ones budget. I mean... It's not like a 5+ year old game *cough* Morrowind *cough* had them or anything.
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Post » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:06 am

But will you continue to buy the game after a good few games, when they've cut the skills down to "armour, weapon and magic"?

Extreme case there, but I think you get my point.

Bethesda is one of the companies that has been around for two decades and just doesn't release bad games (Like Blizzard, for instance). Even if they will cut down everything, I'm pretty sure I will still enjoy the game. I might not like certain aspects, but I will buy it regardless.

I don't actually get this. I know many of the more casual gamers. Every single one has said that they didn't like Oblivion, and don't plan to buy Skryim. Or any Elder Scrolls, for that matter.

"You know". How many people do you know in total? How many of them are gamers? How many of them are casual? Beths are dealing with millions of people and they have to adjust the game towards what the biggest chunk of people wants to see unless they intend to lose money. It's fifty people who don't plan to buy skyrim versus two hundreed thousands who plan exactly because it's being simplified.

So.. We're likely to have throwing spears? I'm pretty sure spears are confirmed, in one way or another.

I never enjoyed NV much, and didn't get very far, so I'm not sure about the spears there.

No, they are not confirmed. There was a vague reference which can be interpreted either way.
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Post » Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:41 pm

Yes... Because implementing polearms and various animations for polearms is sooo hard, and would completely deplete ones budget. I mean... It's not like a 5+ year old game *cough* Morrowind *cough* had them or anything.

Yeah, it's not like in that game it worked just like every other weapon, except it was extended by a pole...
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