Spell making has been confirmed NOT in the game, but you can combined spells.
An example given was this: You cast a lightning spell in the left hand and a shield spell in the right hand; the result is a lightning shield that does damage to enemies when they attack you.

Its enchanting.


Spell creation is not in the game, we know this already. I doubt very much that they would change that at this point.

I really don't understand why they aren't including it. It was there forever, it is one of main strong points of the series. And enchanting is more overpowered in general, so that's probably not for balance reasons.

I want to make destruction spells which are using at least three different damage effects at once. Fire, frost, shock. Both as instant-cast bolt of extermination and continuous damage hex of death. Because it's fun, and both my Nerevarine and Madgod enjoy these spells.

I think the main reason that Spellmaking is not in the game, is because the magical effects are entirely hand-crafted. Spellmaking worked fine in a basic, stock effect kind of way, but now they're making magic a lot more involved than "Ready magic, press button".

I think the main reason that Spellmaking is not in the game, is because the magical effects are entirely hand-crafted. Spellmaking worked fine in a basic, stock effect kind of way, but now they're making magic a lot more involved than "Ready magic, press button".

One, spell creation has never been confirmed out and two, from the sound of magic its the same thing as "ready magic, press button". There was more variations and customization in spell creation than there can ever be with 'duel wield spells'. I dont care if you connect two more spells to your feet, spell creation is still deeper with more variety.

There's absolutely no reason to get rid of spell creation ad every reason to keep it.

Maybe variety on a spreadsheet, not variety in a tactile sense, since the spells are a lot more context sensitive now.

I can list a few reasons to get rid of spellmaking. None actually justify it's removal completely, since I support the "more is more" boat, but still, I can sympathize with a decision when you take into consideration more than your own desires. You know, things like time and budget constraints.

There Will be Some Spell Combining

It seems that there will be some sort of rudimentary spell combo system, based on some of the stuff we see Howard pull off. Putting a heal spell in each hand resulted in an ultra-heal spell of sorts. A note-quite-as-flashy-but-still-interesting scenario had Howard casting detect life and then an unspecified spell from the Illusion tree -- one that caused enemies to attack each other. Again, it's not flashy, but it was nice to have the detect life show you all the bad guys nearby, then to cast that illusion spell from afar and watch the mayhem through walls or hills without making any actual contact with the enemy.

The most interesting combination that Howard casted was a circle of protection paired with a chain lightning; this caused any foe to be instantly zapped whenever they attempted to close in for a melee attack. Until we get a deeper demo or some hands-on time ourselves, we don't quite know how deep the spell combination system can get, but it already looks pretty snazzy.

Maybe variety on a spreadsheet, not variety in a tactile sense, since the spells are a lot more context sensitive now.

I can list a few reasons to get rid of spellmaking. None actually justify it's removal completely, since I support the "more is more" boat, but still, I can sympathize with a decision when you take into consideration more than your own desires. You know, things like time and budget constraints.

No as in a real, in game variety. LOL at these people saying spreadsheety. Nobody ever said anything like this until Todd said it. Just because X person couldn't think of anything novel or imaginative to do with spell creation doesnt mean we couldn't. There's no reason to exclude it. Dont like it, dont use it. Too complex? Dont use it.

Sorry to burst your pseudo-insult bubble, but the "Spreadsheet" insult existed way before Todd Howard said it. It's just a very easily recognizable anology, because it is, literally, a spreadsheet.

I really don't feel it creates a particularly noteworthy sense of variety. The magic systems in Both Oblivion and Morrowind, had no real feel to it. And maybe that's true in Skyrim too. But as it sounds now, they're trying to make the experience of magic, just that, an experience. Rather than "Pick spell from list, use". And while that will persist in some sense, in Morrowind-Oblivion, that was literally the magic system.

No it didnt, I never saw one person say that. Link it if you have.

Sorry to burst your pseudo-insult bubble, but the "Spreadsheet" insult existed way before Todd Howard said it. It's just a very easily recognizable anology, because it is, literally, a spreadsheet.

I really don't feel it creates a particularly noteworthy sense of variety. The magic systems in Both Oblivion and Morrowind, had no real feel to it. And maybe that's true in Skyrim too. But as it sounds now, they're trying to make the experience of magic, just that, an experience. Rather than "Pick spell from list, use". And while that will persist in some sense, in Morrowind-Oblivion, that was literally the magic system.