No spell Making Confirmed #3

Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:03 am

You're not a fan of regenerative magicka and stamina? Not liking regenerating health I can understand, I guess, but I'm surprised to see that you (and I imagine there are others) are against magicka and stamina regen. Although I feel it should be a lot slower than it was in Oblivion, I wouldn't want it removed completely.



I also don't like regenerating magicka. I thought about my spell use more in morrowind than in oblivion. I just spammed spells in oblivion, I found that less fun.
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Tyrone Haywood
 
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:58 pm

Yay! Now being a magic person it is going to be fun! No more overpowered magic.

It was always fun and it was never OP. Bugs don't count, they're not intentional part of the system. Dont be a troll
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Ashley Tamen
 
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Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:42 am

It was always fun and it was never OP. Bugs don't count, they're not intentional part of the system. Dont be a troll

Me having a different opinion=trolling.
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Alan Whiston
 
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Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:00 am

Me having a different opinion=trolling.

I've read your other posts, captain. Trying to pass it off as merely having a difference of opinion isn't helping your cause.
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:30 pm

I agree. A third thread on this topic, really? And im also glad Bethesda removed spell-making.



What? What kind of attitude is this? Fewer options is a good thing?
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Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:33 am

I've read your other posts, captain. Trying to pass it off as merely having a difference of opinion isn't helping your cause.

I said it wasn't fun and it was overpowered. What did I say wrong? It isn't like I said "Oh you are stupid for liking spell making or didn't like it." Stop overgeneralizing everyone as trolls because they didn't find it as fun as you found it.
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:36 pm

I said it wasn't fun and it was overpowered. What did I say wrong? It isn't like I said "Oh you are stupid for liking spell making or didn't like it." Stop overgeneralizing everyone as trolls because they didn't find it as fun as you found it.


I've used the spell crafting system in oblivion many times and i have never found it "Overpowering" unless i went out of my way to make it so, care to explain? i was never making a fire spell for 3 damage with a duration of 60s only to have oblivion add paralyze for 1s without my permission.
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:36 pm

I really wish people would stop trying to rationalize the removal of spell making. There really is no rational explanation they can give that would convince me they could not allow players to alter simple values within their new spell system.

There's plenty of reasons why they removed Spell Making but I doubt you want to hear them.
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:54 pm

I said it wasn't fun and it was overpowered. What did I say wrong? It isn't like I said "Oh you are stupid for liking spell making or didn't like it." Stop overgeneralizing everyone as trolls because they didn't find it as fun as you found it.

Fact is, spell making was never overpowered. BUGS were overpowered. You implied that being a magic user would be fun now that spell making is gone, but it was only ever an added benefit of the previous spell system, it never actually prevented anyone from having fun. To suggest so is 100% false, only an assumption a troll would make. Someone who doesnt like the idea of mages having an additional system to play around with, someone who doesnt like mages having any advantage whatsoever over their preferred class.
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Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:01 am

There's plenty of reasons why they removed Spell Making but I doubt you want to hear them.

I'm quite sure that for every reason they removed spell making, they could have taken the effort to attempt to "fix" those problems instead of scrapping the system all together.

But, no, I shouldn't expect that out of Bethesda. They're proven over the course of the last two games that they don't fix; they scrap. 21 skills -> 18 skills. God, will TES V have 15 skills?
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:22 pm

I've used the spell crafting system in oblivion many times and i have never found it "Overpowering" unless i went out of my way to make it so, care to explain? i was never making a fire spell for 3 damage with a duration of 60s only to have oblivion add paralyze for 1s without my permission.

It isn't "Oh well I didn't use it like this person did it so it isn't overpowered." It is more like "That person can use this overpowered spell so it is overpowered." It made the other classes seem like there was no reason for them. If they can make it to where you couldn't make overpowered spells then yeah sure, I don't see why not.
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Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:14 am

It isn't "Oh well I didn't use it like this person did it so it isn't overpowered." It is more like "That person can use this overpowered spell so it is overpowered." It made the other classes seem like there was no reason for them. If they can make it to where you couldn't make overpowered spells then yeah sure, I don't see why not.


I played a pure mage, thief, and warrior in oblivion and i had fun with all of them, i never felt that my mage was more a warrior or a thief than my thief or warrior.

One thing everyone keeps forgetting though, and someone better respond to this or i'm gonna be confused, is how are pure thieves not supposed to get slaughtered online when they have no combat skills?
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Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:13 am

I'm quite sure that for every reason they removed spell making, they could have taken the effort to attempt to "fix" those problems instead of scrapping the system all together.

But, no, I shouldn't expect that out of Bethesda. They're proven over the course of the last two games that they don't fix; they scrap. 21 skills -> 18 skills. God, will TES V have 15 skills?

My main theory now is that Beth just didn't have the time to improve the system and instead of transfering the current Spell Making system from Oblivion they just scraqed it. That's fine by me I like the new changes to the spells for Skyrim. Now we have Frost Traps, Flaming effects, etc. It just looks much better then Oblivion's launch genric spell such as Fire they all looked the same even Master Level and then the effect occurs.
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Post » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:36 am

It isn't "Oh well I didn't use it like this person did it so it isn't overpowered." It is more like "That person can use this overpowered spell so it is overpowered." It made the other classes seem like there was no reason for them. If they can make it to where you couldn't make overpowered spells then yeah sure, I don't see why not.


Nonsense.
That is wholly your own doing.
I never had any problem playing a Khajit rogue who never used any magic at all.
No such thing as overpowered in a single player RPG, btw. This is not halo.
And so what if people get to use powerful spells? Some people like that. If you dont fine, dont make them.
Do not petition to remove everyone elses freedom.
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Post » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:09 pm

There's plenty of reasons why they removed Spell Making but I doubt you want to hear them.

Certainly not from you. You have done nothing but troll this discussion with your anti spell making bs nonsense rhetoric since the first thread. You clearly dont want to hear anything that doesnt involve mages being gimped. And this isnt the first thread ive caught you doing this. There are other threads where you do nothing but spew nonsense about why spell making wasnt good, yet you didnt even now how the fundamentals of the spell system even worked as far as skill and training and magicka. Other posters including myself had to explain to you how the spell system worked in Oblivion.
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