A "no spiders" option?

Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:26 am

well you will be missing out on all the cool venoms they have for alchemy.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:41 am

The only problem with this method is that you'll risk psychosis or even death, due to the stress caused by the panic attack. The method is actually used, but only on people with moderate phobias.


You know, this is an excellent point! :nod:
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:43 pm

Seriously?

I have a noticeable necrophobia. When I see dead human or animal (larger than insect) body IRL, I am really uncomfortable. If said body is half-decayed — even worse. But mindless slaughter, corpses and zombies in game? No problem.

Also, I have fear of heights. Kinda strong one. And it manifests in games, if I am falling to the death or something when I am not expecting this — I shudder a bit, mumble some profanity and continue to play. Experience is actually enriched this way.

This is a game, dammit. Toggleable spiders, blood, zombies, fire, water, sharp objects, giant space satellites — what else? That's just silly. If your phobia of spiders is so strong that you can't even manage their appearance on screen, then you probably need to work on it with psychologist or psychiatrist.

Trying to heal yourself is not shameful. But not trying to overcome your weakness and hoping to change the world around you by other people's hands so it would be more comfortable for you with your weakness — is.

To be honest, I am thinking of putting a spider as my avatar and spend a few hours actively posting everywhere.

Salute to every arachnophobe in this thread who do understand that it is silly to not being able to discern between real, possibly (not probably, but still) dangerous spider and its' appearance on screen.

In conclusion: I personally don't like huge spiders in games, because my knowledge of biology doesn't helps with suspension of disbelief. Arachnids and insects of that size will die under their own weight / choke / will be too slow and weak to be of any danger to anybody.


I'm pretty sure any arachnid that size would have evolved in such a way that they could support that much weight. In fact, I don't remember how long ago, but I believe maybe a few hundred million years ago, it was normal for insect (possibly arachnid) like creatures to be that size because there was so much oxygen in the atmosphere. This was before the dinosaurs I believe.

EDIT: It was the paleozoic era, about 300 million years ago.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:59 pm

Actually, that is a lot easier said than done. People with irrational phobias know that they are irrational--but it is beyond their control. I would know, as I am one of those people. Seeing a spider in my home can put me into a frightful attack of fear, and while in the midst of my crying and hyperventilating, I am well aware that it is ridiculous--but I really cannot help it. I have to get my husband or someone else to kill the little creature for me, or I can't go on with my day.

Phobias, while irrational, are a real thing to those who have them, and it is very hard to overcome a phobia. So, if you are lucky not to have one, at least have the decency to be sympathetic and not judge those of us who have phobias as if we are incompetent morons.

That said, I still don't think it's logical to remove spiders just because some of us are terrified of them. :)


In what way is treating you as one would treat any other person judging you as if you were incompetent? If anything, those who would look the other way are treating you as incompetent.

Warning: If you're afraid of even the thought of spiders, you may want to skip this next paragraph.

It doesn't matter if they remove spiders from Skyrim. Because if your sitting in a chair in front of a computer desk which is situated against a wall, and especially so if it's situated in a corner, then it's most probable that there is a spider within a meter of you right now. Quite likely more than one. If you're sitting on a bed or a sofa with a laptop, then there is likely a spider within a meter of you. If you're in your kitchen and near a refrigerator which isn't flush against the floor or back wall, or if you have drawers and cabinets, then there is likely a spider within a meter of you. If you are outdoors and in a climate that is regularly above freezing temperature then it is almost assured that there is a spider within a meter of you, if not a foot. Yet you've survived your whole life in a world where you've been more outnumbered by spiders than you could possibly even imagine. There likely won't be a 'spider' option, as mentioned it would be an awful precedent. And there will certainly be mods that remove them. You can download them if you want. But when it comes to irrational fear and addiction, what makes you feel better is often not what is going to help you move past it. That's your decision to make, but don't blame other people for being honest about it.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:34 pm

I would NEVER let someone put me in a tub full of spiders, not even for a million dollars! However, fighting them in a video game is tolerable, and that's about as far as I'll go in trying to overcome this fear. (I may not be able to get the little bastards in RL, but I'll enjoy taking those nasty creatures out in the game!) Death to the arachnids!!! :flamethrower:


Poor spiders ;(, they dont get much love. They kill other annoying insects like moths which is a good thing. Moths annoy the hell out of me, if they like the light so much why do they only come out at night!. I say hail arachnids! :foodndrink:

The only problem with this method is that you'll risk psychosis or even death, due to the stress caused by the panic attack. The method is actually used, but only on people with moderate phobias.

I've been trying to fight my own ridiculous phobia for chitinous insects (excluding spiders actually, for whatever weird reason), but it's really hard. I usually get the reaction from stink bugs and other beetles, or from flies, moths and millipedes. Even right now, I thought I saw a millipede on my keyboard for a split second, and I got shivers (just for talking about it).

For me, it's usually when they surprise me. I can psyche myself up to tolerate them, but I always freak out if they just suddenly are there.


Mate you need to chill with Bear Grylls he eats insects for the fun of it! I'm sure if your life depended on it you could not only touch insects but eat them too, I know I would. Bear Grylls is awesome.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:25 pm

Well, I'm afraid of corpses (germiphobia, hemophobia, and whatever a phobia of dead things is), I'm afraid of darkness, and I'm afraid of deep water, but those things do not translate into video games... hence my curiousity.

Necrophobia.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:56 pm

I don't quite understand this -- I have a serious fear of cockroaches, but Radroaches don't bother me at all. That being said, though, I don't see a problem with a no spider option if lots of people have a problem with them and the devs can keep the game balanced.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:20 pm

I reckon that:

Noctophobia = fear of the night / darkness (Diophobia would be the fear of daylight, I think)
Abyssophobia = fear of deep waters (and chasms)
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:57 am

Well, if the spiders are exclusive to one area then don't go to that area. Otherwise you'll have to wait for a mod. I feel very sorry for you man.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:30 pm

Wait for no spider mod
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:04 am

SPIDERS CAN BE FUN CREATURES!!! Check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlKE4ObCXSY out... :chaos:
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:15 pm

In what way is treating you as one would treat any other person judging you as if you were incompetent? If anything, those who would look the other way are treating you as incompetent.

Warning: If you're afraid of even the thought of spiders, you may want to skip this next paragraph.

It doesn't matter if they remove spiders from Skyrim. Because if your sitting in a chair in front of a computer desk which is situated against a wall, and especially so if it's situated in a corner, then it's most probable that there is a spider within a meter of you right now. Quite likely more than one. If you're sitting on a bed or a sofa with a laptop, then there is likely a spider within a meter of you. If you're in your kitchen and near a refrigerator which isn't flush against the floor or back wall, or if you have drawers and cabinets, then there is likely a spider within a meter of you. If you are outdoors and in a climate that is regularly above freezing temperature then it is almost assured that there is a spider within a meter of you, if not a foot. Yet you've survived your whole life in a world where you've been more outnumbered by spiders than you could possibly even imagine. There likely won't be a 'spider' option, as mentioned it would be an awful precedent. And there will certainly be mods that remove them. You can download them if you want. But when it comes to irrational fear and addiction, what makes you feel better is often not what is going to help you move past it. That's your decision to make, but don't blame other people for being honest about it.


Yeah...although I'm well aware of this fact, I try not to think about it... Just let me continue deluding myself--if I can't see it, therefore it doesn't exist... :ninja:

I wasn't trying to jump on people, but I just want you to be a little more understanding. That's all. :) We shouldn't be afraid of them, and yes...we're surrounded by them (*shudders*) but it's a pretty serious thing to one who can't help being afraid... I'm still working on it--I will until I get over the fear, or I'll die trying... :violin:

However, I do understand where the lack of sympathy is coming from. It's more understandable than having an irrational fear... And again, though I detest spiders, I'm kind of glad they'll be in the game, so I can enjoy annihilating them... :toughninja:

No, no love for arachnids, though they do have a purpose in this world...
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:51 am

Poor spiders ;(, they dont get much love. They kill other annoying insects like moths which is a good thing. Moths annoy the hell out of me, if they like the light so much why do they only come out at night!. I say hail arachnids! :foodndrink:


The ironic part is that the most deadly macroscopic organism to humans are mosquitos, which many spiders actively hunt. But we're far more afraid of spiders who live in our corners than than mosquitos which actively bite us.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:17 am



No, no love for arachnids, though they do have a purpose in this world...

Ever thought of working them into your fiction, might be theraqeutic.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:14 pm

Afraid of spiders?

Don't fight them.

Problem solved.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:15 pm

The ironic part is that the most deadly macroscopic organism to humans are mosquitos, which many spiders actively hunt. But we're far more afraid of spiders who live in our corners than than mosquitos which actively bite us.


Spiders are creepier looking... the way they crawl (and usually they're very quick)... yuck! yuck! yuck! :yucky:
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While misquitoes are more harmful, they don't *seem* as menacing... It's definitely more of a psychological issue than a real one. But it's still very gripping.... :flamed:
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:33 pm

Torches must be expensive and rare in this game! I can't wait to fight these things, if they can catch us in their web it's going to be intense :chaos: if they can ambush us in silence I guess the spider caves will be adrenaline overdose, the real rollercoasters of Tes with people running and screaming :D
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:08 pm

Yeah...although I'm well aware of this fact, I try not to think about it... Just let me continue deluding myself--if I can't see it, therefore it doesn't exist... :ninja:

I wasn't trying to jump on people, but I just want you to be a little more understanding. That's all. :) We shouldn't be afraid of them, and yes...we're surrounded by them (*shudders*) but it's a pretty serious thing to one who can't help being afraid... I'm still working on it--I will until I get over the fear, or I'll die trying... :violin:

However, I do understand where the lack of sympathy is coming from. It's more understandable than having an irrational fear... And again, though I detest spiders, I'm kind of glad they'll be in the game, so I can enjoy annihilating them... :toughninja:

No, no love for arachnids, though they do have a purpose in this world...


Well, I'd like to say that I don't mean to be so harsh. I read your later posts after replying to that one, and I have to give you credit because you've made attempts to help yourself.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:51 am

Ever thought of working them into your fiction, might be theraqeutic.


Actually, I've tried all sorts of methods to eradicate this fear... And there is a scene I have written in book 2 of Memoirs of a Madwoman, which involves spiders.... And during Halloween, my house is filled with fake spiders... Real ones are more creepy, though. :batman:

However, I have made SOME progress over the years--I am not so afraid of daddy-long-legs and the typical house spiders that look similar to them... Still don't want them near me, though... (I give those kind a grace period--they can live, so long as they move out in a day or two, and I don't see them crawling around my house) I think the way spiders move is creepier than anything else... :disco:
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:31 pm

Well, I'd like to say that I don't mean to be so harsh. I read your later posts after replying to that one, and I have to give you credit because you've made attempts to help yourself.


Thanks. :)

And again, I do understand where you're coming from... :obliviongate:

*just teasing* :tongue:
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:39 pm

SPIDERS CAN BE FUN CREATURES!!! Check http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlKE4ObCXSY out... :chaos:

:lmao: I'll try to drug them with alcohol (alcohol and fire, that is). I hope they don't overuse paralyzing and netting abilities.
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:43 am

Spiders are creepier looking... the way they crawl (and usually they're very quick)... yuck! yuck! yuck! :yucky:
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While misquitoes are more harmful, they don't *seem* as menacing... It's definitely more of a psychological issue than a real one. But it's still very gripping.... :flamed:


This is actually a natural system of judgment. People, and most cognitive organisms, are more friendly towards similar things than nonsimilar. That extends far beyond personality or slight changes into full physiology. Humans are mammals and associate closely with other mammals. Dogs, cats, cows, horses, etc. Even large or dangerous mammals are often considered to be cute (bears, tigers, etc). Once you leave the world of mammals our opinions drastically change. Take things like lizards or frogs with similar qualities to other mammals people will have different opinions. The further from that you go the harder it is to deal with them. Spiders have 8 legs (as compared to 4 for most mammals, reptiles, etc), and insects 6. Most species are to small to have distinguishable facial features to humans. They move differently, live in stranger places, and eat stranger things that people. So we have a lot of difficulty associating with them.

The same applies to snakes, which people also have a lot of difficulty associating with. It even applies in the ES universe, where most races are friendlier to their own than others. And below that, most mer and more friendly with other mer than humans. And then argonians and khajiit get the short end of the stick due to the lack of variety (in the locations where the games have taken place).
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:44 pm

This is actually a natural system of judgment. People, and most cognitive organisms, are more friendly towards similar things than nonsimilar. That extends far beyond personality or slight changes into full physiology. Humans are mammals and associate closely with other mammals. Dogs, cats, cows, horses, etc. Even large or dangerous mammals are often considered to be cute (bears, tigers, etc). Once you leave the world of mammals our opinions drastically change. Take things like lizards or frogs with similar qualities to other mammals people will have different opinions. The further from that you go the harder it is to deal with them. Spiders have 8 legs (as compared to 4 for most mammals, reptiles, etc), and insects 6. Most species are to small to have distinguishable facial features to humans. They move differently, live in stranger places, and eat stranger things that people. So we have a lot of difficulty associating with them.

The same applies to snakes, which people also have a lot of difficulty associating with.


Wow, I never thought of it that way. It makes sense. You're smart! :cookie:
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:55 am

But spiders are awesome, check out this video of some Baldurs Gate gameplay from 1:10 :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wV8kb9ckr8
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Post » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:44 am

The only way to deal with your fear is to confront them in some fun way.
I had partial phobia to snakes and spiders...living for some time in some"remote" place in a tropical country, it was a live it or leave it.
I still crank when i see some spiders but its bearable.

If you can overcome your arachnophobia in the game your in the right way.
I still jump sometimes when some spider attack me but then i start swearing and shop suey themm with rafe, fear and happiness.

sorry i voted no, i m partially arachnophobiac and i love dealing with it in video game where it won t have any consequence no one, nor me, nor the poor spider nor anything around me.
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