its from data mined from the pipboy app, as well as every location, how many quests there are, and a number of other things.

Ahhh

Wasteland doesn't age people up that much, plenty of folks who look their age, even growing up around the harsh conditions of the CW and not having the luxury of the BoS. I don't know why people are so gung ho about Arthur Maxson "leading" the BoS at 20. It isn't gonna happen. Look at reality, he probably couldn't even fit in a suit of PA until he was 17, which means he has had about 2-3 years of combat "experience" and by that time the Enclave and SM probably long driven from the CW. They not gonna send him out in underroos to fight, Maxson's have a bad history of not being in PA and getting killed.

Arthur Maxson may very well be in the game, but it doesn't make sense for that guy to be him. I would place that guy at 30-35.

Why couldn't he just be some random warlord recruited by the Capital Wasteland brotherhood? Why can't his speech have been anything said by anyone?

Could be. A man can have some hope, as slim a chance as it is, like I said.

Hm, perhaps it's a combination. MW-led with CW's blessing and support, looking to stop a repeat of the Calculator? Lest we forget, the CWBoS aren't exactly lovers of artificial intelligence, either. The dangers of AI shown by Eden, plus their interest in biotech (Star Paladin Cross), gives them all the reason to join forces with a MWBoS expeditionary force to stop/recruit members from/dominate The Institute.

Maybe the fellow in the trailer was good old 101. He'd be close to 30 by now.

Uh, if that's true, I REALLY don't want to fight him.

Oh God I hope that is true so I kill him. Maybe that's why they're being so hush about it.

They shouldn't do that, it would piss too many people off.

That would be epic

Weren't the events of tactics a good century before fallout 3?

Little under. Doesn't mean they aren't still around.

like 79 years before Fo3, 89 years before Fo4

I know, I'm just saying it's strange that they only just now decided to do something about synths, if it is them. The Institute has had synths for at least a few decades prior to FO4. Though maybe some Inciting Incident happened in the decade between 3 and 4? I want it to be the CW Brotherhood, or a combination between the MW and the CW. I guess we'll all find out in a few days though haha.

As far as I am concerned the Brotherhood of Steel is moving up from the Capital to investigate rumours of these "androids" which weren't exactly secret in Fallout 3 (even the slavers knew of them). Maybe they see the Institute creating artificial, sentient persons and decide that this is the mis-use of tech which they were created to prevent. Would fit in with the BoS guy talking about saving humankind from themselves IMO.

I still don't think that the MWBoS will have anything to do with this. Airships themselves were not built by the MWBoS but for them by the WCBoS, Airship knowledge is common to the entire organisation. And now we have a ten year time-frame to work with instead of the "months" nay-sayers kept saying about Lyon's lot not having enough time to build an Airship, now they do.

for anyone who wants to know a bit about the BoS's involvement in The Commonwealth

Any spoilers leaked that confirm it is in fact Lyons BoS?

Nope, never saw or heard anyone mention what branch they were from.

So now we know and knowing is half the battle!

Well assuming the stuff in the spoiler tag actually reveals anything I didn't read it just saw a shtick opening

Soooo, then

It's either him or some random "look who we found in the Wastes, what a hero!" guy that worked his way up; that is, there is no BoS member I can think of that matches his character.

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The more important question is how the BoS will pay for their wanton destruction of Enclave property and treason.

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