Well, you are wrong. John Maxson was High Elder in FO 1, and there is a council of Elders(not Maxson's) who vote and argue on what they are going to do. John Maxson is an old man, and he has children, who are probably grown, and more than likely grand children(we don't get to see them in FO 1), and Rhombus succeeds him as High Elder..not a Maxson.

Plus, if Maxson was so important to BoS, no way they would have sent him East.

if i remember correctly he was on the east bc he was a Maxson and other think he should grow up and lead the BoS back to glory, but other think different. so they where trying to protect him that why they move him east.

I thought that the entire reason for why Ashur was using the steel mills was to rebuild which, among other things, means rebuilding the railways to reconnect the coasts and allow for easier trade among communities but again, I could very well be wrong about the specifics. Ten years is quite awhile and we can assume that Ashur has made great progress with his 'workers' and his goals... If he succeeded of course.

Fair enough, but it would ultimately depend on if Ashur would spread the cure, if any headway was made on it at all the rest of the East Coast. It would be really interesting to see the results of this... among other things as well.

It also makes me curious about the fate of Harold and if tree's are now growing and spreading across the Capitol Wasteland again... I wonder what is canon in that regard?

Ashur was using the steel to make guns and bullets, not railways.

Canonically, the LW is considered a saint and savior - at least according to the bit they gave to include in the prima games guide for Fo3. So, I trust that perhaps the LW chose the path of reason and gave Harold new found hope to live.

What if the 2287 date is only for the review copies of the game. Also just one of the ways Bethesda will know if you pirated the game or not, the date at the start of the game will be different.

2287 unconfirmed, we don't really know yet.

MIDWEST BOS HERE WE COME!

half kidding

I just had a though, maybe the BOS having so many vertibirds and an airship is because of Ashur. If Ashur remaining in power is canon I can imagine the LW telling the Lyon's about it and maybe they could have worked out some kind of arrangement were the Pitt builds them new equipment in exchange for fresh water.

It's still all speculation anyway lol, really fun read so far anywho.

Nah its probably 2287, I don't know why it wouldn't be, lol. I mean yea their is a small chance it may not be 2287 sure.

Wouldnt it be cool if they made Rivet City seaworthy and used this as the BOS base in Boston Harbor.

Assuming Ashur's ending is canon.

Which I really hope it is.

Two caps it is. Either he's Elder, or some equivalent to Brotherhood leader if they've changed their structure in a decade.

If it happens to the MWBOS, we'll just call that a no-contest.

Considering the ship is cut in half, it'd make more sense to just build a carrier from scratch.

Plus I think the Prydwen has got the "sweet mobile command center" covered.

Pinkerton wanted to make it seaworthy again.

So satisfying!

He self-exiled himself. He can dream, though.

Perhaps if they were able to barter steel from the pitt, they could make it sea worthy again.

It's what I said about the airship.

Going back to the conversation about the leadership of the Brotherhood for a moment, I could see Arthur in command of the Boston detachment considering he's probably been groomed for command by Lyons, but not the entire CWBoS. A young officer trying to prove himself with his first command and someone trying to live up to a family name are both pretty common tropes.

I think it would be interesting just for seeing the vertibirds all lined up on the old aircraft carrier. Also, it was a big gpart of the Rail Road....the irony having RC in Boston. The ship we find Zimmer located in 3.

That's a likely route for the kid.

IF you all are looking for the screenshots, a quick google search will find them, they're all over Reddit. And most are just images of the environment anyway.

Since the thread is about to hit the post limit anyways, anyone want to hear by theory on why the east coast has very little contact with states further west?

Sure, hit me with it!

Fine, well, if you look at a map of America(go on Google Maps or something) and you draw a line from D.C., to Cleveland Ohio, to Nashville Tennessee, to Atlanta Georgia, back to D.C., you will end up with a box.

Inside this box is a fairly large portion of America that lacks any real major metropolitan areas, and consists mostly of small towns.

Given what we saw/heard about states like Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado, its very likely that, shortly after the war, the people in this area who didn't die from all the radiation would have quickly run out of supplies, since their small towns aren't self sustaining, and the remaining people would have been forced to either
A. Move to the ruins of the major metropolis areas around the boxed area.
B. Degenerate into tribal groups like those seen in places like Zion.
C. Go sort of Point Lookout natives, and establish very small self sustaining communities.

While this wouldn't have caused the area to be totally abandoned, there basically wouldn't be any significant number of people in it to maintain any sort of actual civilization, thus resulting in the area turning into mostly hostile wilderness.

This in turn would have basically made east/west travel impossible, as this boxed area extended from the Great Lakes, down to Georgia in the south. Realistically, the only "safe" ways west would be to either

A. Go through Pittsburgh(which we all know how big of a dump that was), into Ohio, and then go west to places like Chicago.

B. Go all the way south from D.C., through the Carolinas, and into Atlanta, and then start going west to Dallas and beyond.

And neither of these paths are very efficient to travel.

This is somewhat supported in Fo3 and its DLC, where we hear of settlements all along the coast, from Boston down to The Broken Banks, but we hear nothing of anything in more nearby places like West Virginia, Western Virgina, and everything else in the boxed area.

Basically, this entire interior area of America is wilderness.

I pretty much knew the game wasn't going to take place at the same time as FO3. That just doesn't make sense, especially with the BoS in Boston. I knew it was the CWBOS, the MWBOS uses different armor.

The only ones who could survive are native indians in Texas,maybe.