For what campaign Brink has I think it is amazing, the story is made up of not only the missions but everything in the Dossier. What I believe is great about Brinks story is that it is so clouded in mystery that at the end of the campaign it gave me such a feeling of suspense that left me thinking: 'What now?'

I've made this thread to discuss possibilities of what does or doesn't lay outside the Ark and what could possibly be next for Brink.

So after completing both campaigns, to my knowledge, the Security stop the resistance destroying the Ark but the Resistance escape anyway. However, I believe that Chen and some of his followers are disillusioned severely. Having been through the Dossier audiologs I discovered what the people on land turned to, it was a free-for-all, even a Founder (her name escapes me) detailed in an audiolog that the Ark tried to contact the outside world and the people on the mission were brutally killed. I don't know why Chen believes that there is civilised life outside the Ark as he must know what a state every society fell into, civilisation became, well, un-civilised and I believe people reverted some-what back to savage ways and it is obvious that civilisation cannot rebuild itself in two decades (the time Ark hasn't had contact with the outside world).

Anyways i'm interested in everybody elses theories are, I may add more later.

-Sykoschematic

There's no way that every single surviving human has reverted back to savages. There has to be some sort of civilization, somewhere. Who knows if Chen's team will find anything, or even be able to make it back if they do, but I see no reason that they couldn't.

They should come out with new dlc that is off the ark

The only problem with this is that the ARK security becomes awfully redundant.

Time to rewatch Waterworld :tongue:
SMOKERS!

That's what I'm thinking.

I don't they mean savages as in beat their chest and rip off the heads of men kind of savages. More thugs with guns kind of savages who would kill for the shoes off your feet.

Chen is disillusioned by himself. He thinks he made the Ark what it is, that it was all his doing. He's not interesting is social freedom he's interested in power, power for himself.

I could see what's her name, Barbara whatever, going crazy and ordering the Security to purge the Guests from the Ark going over Mokoena's head doing so. Just like I could see some of Chen's more enthusiastic followers deciding that Chen doesn't go far enough and launching a full scale assault on Security Headquarters.

Actually, they could fight off new invaders from the outside world.

Think about it..

Resistance: Fight to reach the last bastion of civilization

Security: Fight to defend the Ark from outside invaders

I think Chen's ideals are more right than the founders.

The founders are to afraid, their like north korea, believing everyone else are savages.Any country that goes into isolation are doomed to fail after a long period of time.

It's ok for them to be in isolation, and to be on the safe side, its might be better to wait.

But. they dont have time to wait.

The ARC is dying / Sinking. If they dont find land soon, their all be doomed, and who knows how long it will take!? So they cant afford wasting time.

The ARC has enough military power as shown, organisation aswell and technology to boot!

If the arc find land, they can make a foothold. They dont need to "find civilisation" they can create it.

Even if the world turned MAD MAX FFA, there will always be humans with a straight mind.
There will be savages, and there will be civilisations in form of small communities.

If the arc made a foothold at land, they can take over a land terretory for themselves, they can start populating that terretory, smaller communities will have no problem joining in and helping the arc. And they might even convert some savages. as some savages are just savages because they have too, but when offered sanctuary that gives you a good chanse of survival and you no longer have to rely on yourself to survive. some will have close to no or little issues in joining and helping the arc.

The arc will be the capital, and the more they conquer the more powerfull and stabilised the world will be.

When they have enough land and controll, they can start boosting their research, copy-pasta their self-sustaining fascilities, destillation plants and create more food and water. as for many, this is all people want and need.
The more fresh water they can make, the even more powerfull they will be and more they can convert to joining them. Untill they reach a size significant enough that savages wont dare doing head-on attacks as they are way to powerfull and big.

The ARC is the KEY for civilisation if there is none.
The ARC is what might bring the world to stability once again. But hiding out in the ocean will get them nowhere.

The founders have the right ideals, but they are to afraid, and to hesitant, aswell they are alittle so-greedy.

if they can get to land, its all about Diplomacy and Force. Security and Resistance combined will make a formidable force. Diplomacy is needed to keep leashes on the savages, and eventually use savages to fight other savages.


Well thats what i believe, to put in simplistic terms.

What i say might sound all fancy and easy.
but dont take it literally as Chen also says about his ideals.

Dont be to literrall. there will be huge amount of complication, things wont be easy, and it will always have a risk. Its all about the ARC's leadership and cooperation.
We know both Chen and Mokoena are good leaders. Chen is a good offensive leader aswell as a good diplomat to convert Land-people. while Mokoena is a good leader for law and order and protecting the arc.

But itll be nowhere easy. and in the arc current situation, not even possible.
they need to sort out themselves before doing anything. Founders need to grow balls and get their things straight.

There is a big bad population, all are suffering, because they don′t have water. A legend tells about a moving island with the ability of making good water out ouf salt water. The leaders of this suffering population have formed a army, which is on the way to the ark to take over controll!

Didnt the audios, logs & pre mission, say that a team had been sent, but they were brutally tortured for the arks location cos the land become run by savage thugs each struggling to meek out an existence? The ark itself is doomed to failure cos Chen wont tell them about it slowly falling apart & cos hes letting the R strip down its essential machinery to make ammo & guns :s Whereas the S wont tell the R about their failed trip & lack of civilization cos it would kill all hope & cause panicked riots. Kinda damned if you do & damned if you dont really

What was that mysterious audio log about "leave the house, build a boat, take all lifes seed" or something. Thats gotta be a big hint. Maybe theres more than one ark & its all some mass psychological experiment? Or have the rich elite manufactured these situations so they CAN live in safe luxury with a slave class working for them?

Whose posh craft is that at the end, with R & S positions & the leaders faces on screen, with coffee mugs & glasses of water? hmmmmm.

I don't think the Founders are that bad. They just want to live and let live. They didn't have to let the Guests in, they could have sunk their boats and live in isolation. The Guests, rather Chen, is cause the most problems by starting this misguided revolution. The Founders and Mokoena have been trying to reach a peaceful resolution, even compromise, but Chen isn't interested in peace, he's interested in power. He practically says so himself.

Anyways, it's not like the Founders are trying to keep the Guests down. Elmhurst herself even says that she's meet a number of smart, promising young Guests. She volunteers to help them, she has done so much for them and they just spit in her face. It's kind of hard to like the Guests when they show such hatred for you while you're trying to help them.

These are all excellent points!!

But we all must agree, using any of this material would make for most epic DLC.

As for what i think, I think conflict with the inlanders/savages would spark quite the story. Perhaps, the team wasn't torn apart or tortured or whatever. Perhaps somehow the mainland went well at re-establishing itself and once the SEC. team got there they didn't wanna/couldn't let the land.

Unlikely, yes. Interesting plot twist, possibly.

Also, due to bethesda being part of (wheather big or small) the production of BRINK. We could expect crossovers, and not just the pre-order bonuses either.

Thanks for reading,
The Eel



P.S. That last part, like the outro. Just thought I'd add that in too create a professional effect. So please don't judge.

I'm surprised no one mentioned the fact that resistance and sec have very different... Views of what each and the other a doing...

An informant? A hostage console member?

A vaccine? A bio weapon?

Something more is going on here then we realize. Some how, I don't think this conflict burst out all on its own, and some one pushed them into it. Some one outside the ark is pulling strings, on both sides. What was with that ship, with a perfectly rendered model of the ark on it, just floating outside...

I have a feeling well find out.

I think a lot of Q and A will be in the dlc when it comes out. SD has more a great storyline for both fractions, but the story line leave us the gamers in a "wtf is happening" state of mind. Even with the audio logs it clears up some questions and answers, but also adds more to think about.

Just curious...

If you want to, you can reclaim fresh water out of salt water with minimal technology. You need the ability to produce a fire hotter than 100oC, a reasonably solid material that doesn't burn or deform at those temperatures, and the ability to shape that material.

Considering all the requirements remained readily available in the dark ages, I'd be very worried about the state of the world if they've lost those options in Brink's world. I'm more than a little surprised none of the Ark's "guests" have thought of doing something like this to supplement their rations, actually...

Well my guess is that people will be so accustomed to being able to just turn a tap on and get fresh water when ever they want that when they can't do that they'll panic and scream and steal rather than being rational. Kind of like the fat people in Wall E on the space ship.

Technically the Romans could have just put some seawater into a shield and let it evaporate off to reclaim the salt and yet salt was imported from far away and worth a lot of money (IIRC people used to be paid in salt). They had the technology they just didn't have the know-how.
Look at a lot of refugee camps and 3rd world settlements (I used to live in South Africa) and you'll see people drinking from the most disgusting polluted "streams" (which they also use as their toilet) simply because they do not know better.
I can totally see refugees on the ark trying to get some ancient piece of tech working to try and desalinate some water but simply not having the engineers or knowhow.
Ask everyone in your office / class / group of friends how to get fresh water from seawater and I bet you very few (if any) would know.

sorry to be a nerd but you dond need to boil water to separate it from salt.
you could use polythene sheet or metal to condense water vapour from air overnight ....collecting the dew.

as for the new threat...is it internal or....dah dah daaah

female zombie aliens with rpg

sorry

i'll get my coat....

I like that, good possibility

Awesome! are you an insider on Brink or something? lol thats a great hypothesis, very logical and possible

in one of the audio logs it says.......

talking about unlicenced tech piracy....'there are worse forms of piracy'


a hint of things to come?

You can see what's outside the Ark...

It's been with us all along....
You all know its name...

To see what's outside the Ark, you must play...
R A G E

Dew collecting on a massive scale is pretty difficult. Desalination on the scale required to keep everyone in fresh water would be quite a difficult job. Condensation would help a bit though, but you'd need some proper tech running to provide enough water for a population the size of the one on the Ark.

Well they could use some of the old solar reflectors as a heat source, plus use a thermal heat exchange system with the nuclear reactor coolant to get some more heat for simple desalination.

Most of the problem comes straight from the Resistance though, notably the Welder audio log about how they make their bullets, his father was upset they were taking apart the water filters for meterials to make their ammo, plus the sacrificial anodes which is why their pelgos are sinking so fast.