Star Wars Light Saber : Othor Games

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:50 am

There are serious after-effects of this. Aside from being burned, I'd say being PERMANENTLY BLINDED would make it pretty damn dangerous. You can say the goggles protect the user. That's all they protect, the user. Not others a person might aim the laser at, with intent to burn/blind.

http://www.wickedlasers.com/laser-tech/blue_light_hazard.html

Read the goggles caption. It says that the provided goggles protect eyes for a quarter of a second of exposure.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:41 pm

:trophy: Do you want your Darwin award now or after you kill yourself ?

Well, the rules say we can only present the award post-humously.

Seriously though, this thing is [censored] dangerous, and anyone who buys one is [censored] stupid or a would be murderer/plain [censored]. No reason exists for allowing the general public acess to this.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:37 pm

And if you stay outside in the sunlight for an hour unprotected, you'll get sunburned. Just imagine how much worse it is 1000 times stronger.

And if you read, you'd see that the goggles provided are good for 1/4 of a second of accidentally glimpsing at the light. Not looking at it.

Would people stop exaggerating the power of that thing? There's a LASER in my computer case at this very moment with a wattage of around .250, you are in fact talking about something only 4 times as powerful as my bloody DVD-burner!

It's not like the wattage is the only thing that matters when it comes to LASER, there are countless things that factor into what damage it can actually do to any physical object, not least the specific spectrum within it operates, or for that matter, the width of the beam itself.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:08 am

Really, some of you sound like a bunch of worried mothers. If people hurt themselves, so be it, but I think that the laser can be handled reasonably and safely.

I couldn't care less if people hurt themselves. But someone could easily use this on others, with little consequence due to it being far less traceable than a firearm.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:42 pm

Really, some of you sound like a bunch of worried mothers. If people hurt themselves, so be it, but I think that the laser can be handled reasonably and safely.

:trophy: You get one too, its like a preorder bonus for anyone who buys this thing. Oh worried mother, no im acting like a sane person with common sense. No it cant, the fact that people point lasers at moving veichles, in peoples eyes show not even a small laser that dosen cause cancer or burn cant be handled sensibaily.

Well, the rules say we can only present the award post-humously.

Seriously though, this thing is [censored] dangerous, and anyone who buys one is [censored] stupid or a would be murderer/plain [censored]. No reason exists for allowing the general public acess to this.

They should ust put one in the box with every lightsabre, shame we cant give it to them though, an award 5 minutes early isnt to bad, its obviously going to happen anyway.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:07 pm

Well then I suppose you'll need goggles with an OD of 4.4 or higher, if you intend to be foolish enough to look right at the beam. As this technology become more popular, we will develop safer ways to use it, anyway. This is just another step forward for science, now we just need more powerful protective goggles.

The public probably should be required to have a license to own one, I'll give you that.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:34 pm

It's not like the wattage is the only thing that matters when it comes to LASER, there are countless things that factor into what damage it can actually do to any physical object, not least the specific spectrum within it operates, or for that matter, the width of the beam itself.

Exactly, so why would you compare it to the wattage of a DVD burner if there are so many other factors that would make it so powerful?

The company has stated themselves how dangerous it is, how it can cause burns and blindness, and they make you sign a waiver so that they can't be held responsible for any damage. Do you honestly think that a company would warn you so heavily if they didn't have to? All they care about is selling the product, and if they could make it sound less dangerous than it actually is, they would.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:49 pm

Ug.............."look, me found something, i smashed two rocks together and look what me discovered. its totally awesome."

Og............."that looks dangerous Ug. OUCH, it burns my skin. This is dangerous we must run away from it"

Ug..........."but i want to pretend to be a dragon, look i can make other things smoke and shrivel up with this stuff"

Og..........."where did you get this"

Ug.........."the internet"

Og..........."didnt you read the warnings on the website, it can cause severe burns, possibly destroy entire forests, cities can potentially burn to the ground"

Ug.........."dont be silly, thats just an exaggeration at most a worst case scenario. it even came with these mittens that allow me to pick hot metal things up with"

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:42 pm

Ug.............."look, me invent something, i smashed to rocks together and look what me discovered. its totally awesome."

Og............."that looks dangerous Ug. OUCH, it burns my skin. This is dangerous we must run away from it"

Ug..........."but i want to pretend to be a dragon, look i can make other things smoke and shrivel up with this stuff"

Og..........."where did you get this"

Ug.........."the internet"

Og..........."didnt you read the warnings on the website, it can cause severe burns, possibly destroy entire forests, cities can potentially burn to the ground"

Ug.........."dont be silly, thats just an exaggeration at most a worst case scenario"

:shakehead:

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 7:03 pm

Ug.............."look, me found something, i smashed two rocks together and look what me discovered. its totally awesome."

Og............."that looks dangerous Ug. OUCH, it burns my skin. This is dangerous we must run away from it"

Ug..........."but i want to pretend to be a dragon, look i can make other things smoke and shrivel up with this stuff"

Og..........."where did you get this"

Ug.........."the internet"

Og..........."didnt you read the warnings on the website, it can cause severe burns, possibly destroy entire forests, cities can potentially burn to the ground"

Ug.........."dont be silly, thats just an exaggeration at most a worst case scenario"

Og.........."Well atleast it doesn't cause cancer."

Ug.........."And it does something to food that makes it taste better!"

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:19 pm

Exactly, so why would you compare it to the wattage of a DVD burner if there are so many other factors that would make it so powerful?

You're obviously eager to use the wattage as an argument, so I'm just pointing out the wattage alone indicates that it's no more than four times the power of my DVD-burner. You can't both argue the relevance of the wattage AND say the wattage is irrelevant.

The company has stated themselves how dangerous it is, how it can cause burns and blindness, and they make you sign a waiver so that they can't be held responsible for any damage. Do you honestly think that a company would warn you so heavily if they didn't have to? All they care about is selling the product, and if they could make it sound less dangerous than it actually is, they would.

Three words; lawsuits!

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:19 pm

Ug.............."look, me found something, i smashed two rocks together and look what me discovered. its totally awesome."

Og............."that looks dangerous Ug. OUCH, it burns my skin. This is dangerous we must run away from it"

Ug..........."but i want to pretend to be a dragon, look i can make other things smoke and shrivel up with this stuff"

Og..........."where did you get this"

Ug.........."the internet"

Og..........."didnt you read the warnings on the website, it can cause severe burns, possibly destroy entire forests, cities can potentially burn to the ground"

Ug.........."dont be silly, thats just an exaggeration at most a worst case scenario. it even came with these mittens that allow me to pick hot metal things up with"

Ug.............."look, me found something, i smashed two rocks together and look what me discovered. its totally awesome."

Fixed.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:52 pm

Alright fine, do whatever you want, if you end up blind or dead from using that thing (That's not even a real bloody lightsaber) then that's really not my problem, as long as you don't point that thing anywhere near me then I honsetly don't care anymore. Allthough I still say that paying money for this thing is ridiculously stupid.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:27 pm

You're obviously eager to use the wattage as an argument, so I'm just pointing out the wattage alone indicates that it's no more than four times the power of my DVD-burner. You can't both argue the relevance of the wattage AND say the wattage is irrelevant.

Three words; lawsuits!

You said that your DVD burner is only 1/4 of the wattage of the laser, so how could the laser be that powerful? Then you went on to say that there are a number of other factors that alter the power of the beam. You're arguing the relevance and irrelevance.

Oh, and lawsuits is one word. Just FYI.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:12 am

Alright fine, do whatever you want, if you end up blind or dead from using that thing (That's not even a real bloody lightsaber) then that's really not my problem, as long as you don't point that thing anywhere near me then I honsetly don't care anymore. Allthough I still say that paying money for this thing is ridiculously stupid.

Well, you see, arson, physical abuse and attempted murder are already pretty much covered by the legal system. Why make a point out of telling someone not to do something that they most likely had a rather good idea of the illegality of?

It's not like there's a blind spot (pun intended) in the legal system, which allows people to murder and burn down whole continents without reprisals because doing so specifically with a LASER is exempt from all legislation.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:17 pm

Fixed.

if you referring to my edit yeah. didnt make much sense that Ug invented something he found on the internet. :laugh:

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 2:50 pm

if you referring to my edit yeah. didnt make much sense that Ug invented something he found on the internet. :laugh:

No, i just used the famous quote from Einstein thingy , something along the lines of :

What do you think ww3 will be fought with?

Einstein: i don't know , but i know world war 4 will be fought with sticks and stones.

I was joking btw

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:40 am

Ug.............."look, me found something, i smashed two rocks together and look what me discovered. its totally awesome."

Og............."that looks dangerous Ug. OUCH, it burns my skin. This is dangerous we must run away from it"

Ug..........."but i want to pretend to be a dragon, look i can make other things smoke and shrivel up with this stuff"

Og..........."where did you get this"

Ug.........."the internet"

Og..........."didnt you read the warnings on the website, it can cause severe burns, possibly destroy entire forests, cities can potentially burn to the ground"

Ug.........."dont be silly, thats just an exaggeration at most a worst case scenario. it even came with these mittens that allow me to pick hot metal things up with"

How did you live long enough to be 2010s darwin award candidate ?

Alright fine, do whatever you want, if you end up blind or dead from using that thing (That's not even a real bloody lightsaber) then that's really not my problem, as long as you don't point that thing anywhere near me then I honsetly don't care anymore. Allthough I still say that paying money for this thing is ridiculously stupid.

This, if people want to [censored] their livs up they can ust do it on their own aslong as it dosent bother me.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 9:55 am

You said that your DVD burner is only 1/4 of the wattage of the laser, so how could the laser be that powerful? Then you went on to say that there are a number of other factors that alter the power of the beam. You're arguing the relevance and irrelevance.

It's a simple hypothetical argument, or rather an argument based on a hypothetical scenario. If the wattage determined the power of the LASER, then it would only be 4 times more powerful than my DVD-burner.
But it doesn't, so it's stupid to use the wattage as an argument in the first place.

Oh, and lawsuits is one word. Just FYI.

"Three words; lawsuits" is three words.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 3:44 pm

if you referring to my edit yeah. didnt make much sense that Ug invented something he found on the internet. :laugh:

How do you know ug didn't bang two rocks together and create the internet out of that huh?!

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:57 am

Well, I suppose some of you actually have a point. That point being that there is really no reason the common man would need one of these. I never planned on buying one, and I'm not even sure how I ended up defending it, I guess I just defended it for the sake of debate (it appears I lost this one).

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 8:01 am

"Three words; lawsuits" is three words.

But when you use that tool you're referring to the point of the sentence, so you'd say "One word; lawsuits." Otherwise you sound ignorant

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» Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:26 pm

Really, some of you sound like a bunch of worried mothers. If people hurt themselves, so be it, but I think that the laser can be handled reasonably and safely.

Well then I suppose you'll need goggles with an OD of 4.4 or higher, if you intend to be foolish enough to look right at the beam. As this technology become more popular, we will develop safer ways to use it, anyway. This is just another step forward for science, now we just need more powerful protective goggles.

The public probably should be required to have a license to own one, I'll give you that.

Industrial license.
Given that this thing operates in a much more dangerous spectrum of light, which is probably why it is cheaper than the actual industrial laser, this thing is probably left best for Botany research. Or anything with indirect human exposure.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:40 pm

Oh and people the tech was here years ago, think about laser surgery.

» Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:52 am

You could tape two together, end-to-end. Paint your grill red, and be Darth Maul!

I think I'm starting to see why Sith Lords all tend to be blind...

Really, some of you sound like a bunch of worried mothers. If people hurt themselves, so be it, but I think that the laser can be handled reasonably and safely.

Yes, they can be, but name one practical application for the sale of this device that doesn't end with the phrase "... just to burn stuff."

And it's not so much the users hurting themselves that worries me, but those they might inadvertently harm around them. Industrial usage tends to be heavily controlled, with many safety precautions in place, whereas this thing is being sold like a novelty penlight... Doesn't that strike you as a little irresponsible?