At first I didn't care, but I'm with REL_Dovahkin on this one now. He has some great points.

I like the thought of leaving the vault during a storm ... it was a dark and stormy night when Sole Survivor left Vault 111.

Incorrect. Most of them are nonsense based on no facts.
At first i cared. Then he came along. Every forum is the same just a bunch of loyalist fans that hunt around threads for some one they can have a go at and argue with.
Sick of it tbh. You wouldnt speak to some one you just met like that in person. People like fancy words and [censored] though dont they. I mean we all love fallout dont we? Thats just made up nonsense.

I dunno, I kinda like the blinding sunlight when I leave the boat or tunnel or whatever. It just gives me the feeling on starting out fresh.

So are these storms gonna work like emissions from S.T.A.L.K.E.R or just be something that irradiates you if you happen to be outside?

Honestly i really cant believe it. He comes in with a sarcastic argument which ill admit i bit but why shouldn't i? i asked in the original post for people to be reasonable and polite (in words to that effect) All he did was make drastically exaggerated unfair comparisons with no facts to back them up. The deathclaw thing for example is ludicrous. Effectively saying that leaving that vault would have the same edfect as being spawn killed repeatedly. Then sensory overload? What a load of rubbish. Think of storms in general. In games, films and real life. When have they ever caused you to be unable to use your senses too such an extent you might as well be blind deff and dumb.
Absolutely ridiculous. Its the same tactics that politicians and lawyers use.

Some storms will be blown into the rest of the map drom the glowing crater or zone (cant remember the name) and they will irradiate you. I believe im right in saying however that it is not known if all storms will iradiate you or just the ones that originate from where the bombs crater is. It also might only irradiate you on hardcoe. As for stalker i have to admit i have no idea what you are talking about.

Sie, I'm not sure why you're so upset. It seems to me that you're looking to pick a fight with the members of the forums. If you can't handle someone disagreeing with your opinion, then don't post in the forums.

Dovahkin was very reasonable and tried to explain himself calmly, and all you did was tell him he lacks intelligence. Maybe his posts gave you a negative vibe for some reason, but he wasn't attacking you or anything.

Emerging from Vault 111 in a storm would be an interesting change, and there's certainly good reasons for it. But in the context of this game, where there is a pre-war segment set on a bright and sunny morning, I think it makes more sense to have the weather the same when you exit the vault. Again, that's just my opinion.

Read my original post and you will notice i asked for no arsey comments. Plenty of people have said they wouldnt want stormy weather and the poll reflects that and i didnt argue with any of them infact i agreed with some of their points. So that proves its not me having a problem with people disagreeing with me. Thats is now a proven fact.
However he was sarcastic, rude and tryed to make an argument with facts to back it up. That is what i dont like. I was to yes but only in respose to him which is reasonable.
He wasn't attacking me i agree on that. Thats the sort of exaggeration that i dont like because at no point did i say he was attacking me youre twisting my words which is a sly rude thing to do.
He was however looking for an argument. Trying to unravel the idea i had proposed as if its incorrect or wrong. This is proof of that because as you've said its mostly a matter of opinion and secondly because its so dam trivial. Why would you put that much effort into trying to pick holes in an idea that realy doesnt matter and wont effect the game. The only logical and probable reason is HE was looking for an argument.

I'd say that the way that the Wasteland is introduced to you is very important. It's the game's http://www.zekefilm.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/TTC-4.jpg moment, where you step out of the last vestiges of your old world and step into the new world. It's your fist look at the world you will be spending dozens if not hundreds of hours exploring, and as such first impressions are important. There should be nothing distracting you from soaking in the world around you, which is why I advocate you stepping out of Vault 111 on a cloudless sky in a silent area. It maximizes your ability to take in your surroundings. Storms, clouds, the night, and enemies all diminish that ability, either by actually limiting your visibility, or by producing distractions that keep you from taking your surroundings in.

Man, now I'm imagining a cross between The Wizard of Oz and the 80's animated movie Heavy Metal, (particularly the last segment in the mutant land with giant bird riding warrior woman). I'd totally watch that.

What? You haven't played STALKER? This is an emission and what I am hoping for in Fallout 4.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fXPxR3biFg

That did look brilliant but i think its safe to say that from what we've seen so far there wont be weather quite like that in fallout 4.

Looked into stalker. Im on xbox one not pc (with the exception of fnv and f3 on my laptop) so ive not had the opportunity to play it.

Huh. That was a bit more dramatic than what I was expecting to happen in Fallout 4; but I think that would actually be a pretty good way to implement radiation storms. Where it's a bit more dramatic and telegraphed, and you have time to find cover from an approaching wave of radiation. I'd almost bet that Bethesda adopted the idea straight from STALKER; pared it down a little bit so that it's not as melodramatic, maybe.

I could not have said it any better, myself. Having a bad day, Sie? It sure seems like it.

Read what I've copied and pasted bellow. Its based on actual facts and i use proof to support what i say. Where is the proof that im having a bad day or being unreasonable?
Because im arguing with some one? If it was him disagreeing with me that i didnt like id argue with everyone who disagreed with me. Funny how as soon as this arguement kicked off all the vote slid towards the traditional sunny weather and people start ganging up on me where as before he came along everyone was reasonable and in favor of stormy weather. I said very clearly in the original post im not making a sgestion it was just a thought so dont comment telling me im wrong and generaly be a [censored].
Its the same in evey [censored] forum. Theres some guy whos been hear for a while and has some friends so anyone who upsets him or says somthing he doesn't like gets told they're wrong and all his friends join in.
So am i having a bad day? Some losers that spend all their time on forums argued with me. no i don't really care my life goes on in the real world.
If your aim is to make anyone you dont like leave the forum cominity then you've done that. Congratulations.
seriously id love to see you in the street and see if you make comments like that to some one you've never met. Go on next time you see two strangers arguing go and listen in pick a side and tell the other guy hes wrong and ask him if hes having a bad day.

"Read my original post and you will notice i asked for no arsey comments. Plenty of people have said they wouldnt want stormy weather and the poll reflects that and i didnt argue with any of them infact i agreed with some of their points. So that proves its not me having a problem with people disagreeing with me. Thats is now a proven fact.
However he was sarcastic, rude and tryed to make an argument with facts to back it up. That is what i dont like. I was to yes but only in respose to him which is reasonable.
He wasn't attacking me i agree on that. Thats the sort of exaggeration that i dont like because at no point did i say he was attacking me youre twisting my words which is a sly rude thing to do.
He was however looking for an argument. Trying to unravel the idea i had proposed as if its incorrect or wrong. This is proof of that because as you've said its mostly a matter of opinion and secondly because its so dam trivial. Why would you put that much effort into trying to pick holes in an idea that realy doesnt matter and wont effect the game. The only logical and probable reason is HE was looking for an argument."

Sie,
if you can't be civil towards others without condescending and throwing a huge temper tantrum, then yes, perhaps it is best you leave the forum. The guy you called stupid right off the bat, just because he had his own ideas that didn't fall in line with yours didn't do jack squat to you, and he didn't even try to "poke holes" in your theories, do anything passive aggressive, or even try to change the topic. Whatever you thought he did to ruin your day, it looks like a false accusation to me. If you're going to post a poll, then be prepared for some talk about your poll.

Called him stupid because he doesnt know what a metaphor is. I made that point very clear.
If you couldnt see that then the only conclusion i can draw is that you cant read which would make you stupid as well.

Here is what happened. REL_Dovahkin initially posted that he felt that emerging into a calm, sunny day would be best, because the contrast between the calm and the preceding chaos would have a good, dramatic impact.

You then asked him why he believed the vault would be chaotic.

He replied, "If you want to start with a bang, why not start with a bang?" It is a rhetorical question. He does not mean you specifically. He did not say that you wanted a bang. He is asking that if you were a developer, and if you wanted to start with a bang, then wouldn't you want to start with a big bang? He is telling you why he himself would expect chaos in the vault.

You then replied, "Firstly i didnt say i wanted a bang i agreed with some one elses comment. Secondly i would have expected you to know that it was a metaphor but clearly you lack the inteligence." Your response was uncalled for. He said nothing to give offense.

My advice is to share some ice cream and get back to the fun.

I would like it to be in a stormy night, but in will be sunny.

They will want to do the same thing they did in Fallout 3, you leaving the vault and blinded be the sun thing. I think they even showed it on one of their videos.

No.
Whats the hypothetical situation of me being a developer got to do with anything? So acroding to you hes effectively said if you want to start with a storm why not start with a big storm. Which makes [censored] all sense.
The reason i treated him like the [censored] he is is because he was sarcastic and patranising to me in his first post. Describing the characteristics of a storm to me. Thats uncalled for.
Go spin on it.

Yeah they did. Its set in stone already.

My mistake. I neglected to check if his first post might have been in response to your post that preceded it. I do things like that from time to time, no deliberate spinning intended. His second post makes more sense to me now, thanks.

So, you said that emerging into a dramatic storm could be a good thing, and that allowing us a period of calm before the storm could be even better. He replied that having us surface into a storm is a bad idea, on the same level of bad as emerging to 20 deathclaws. His comparison seems more hyperbole than sarcasm to me, but I see how it could be annoying.

On topic, I hope that when we awake from our 200 year sleep, that time inside the vault is the same as time outside the vault. If we delay our departure, then we can step out into the night. I have no weather preference.

I think I just have emerged into a dramatic storm.

As for the game, maybe. Perhaps an electrical storm some way off, where you can see the flashes, but there's no rain yet and not much sound. That can be quite tense and unsettling.

But I wouldn't be against the full works either. You could have a mad dash for some kind of shelter until it passes and then get the big revealing shot of the landscape a little later.

Whoa! That wasn't exactly what I was thinking of when I said I would like a stormy night. Cool non-the-less.