Starting to hate High Elves : V - Skyrim

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:08 pm

High elf dragonborn is amusingly ironic, though.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:56 pm

I have despised elves (well, except the Dunmer) for many, many years. The Thalmor just give me more ammunition.

The Orsimer are pretty cool as well. 90% of the Altmer, Bosmer and Falmer are annoying as, 9% are ok and 1% are pretty cool...

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:31 pm

The Dunmer and Bosmer i dont mind.

But some snotty Altmer is not going to tell me what i can and cant believe in.

"summons Dremora lord"

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:52 pm

Not really, all they have is +50 Magicka and a once per day increased magicka regeneration. The Racial differences in skyrim are a lot weaker then the differences in Oblivion. Using spells against Warriors and Archers that Magicka does help but against other mages altmer get killed fast since they're just paper cannons, Breton on the other hand have a passive 25% resistance to magicka and their daily power absorbs 50% of magicka from incoming spells. So Altmer are not outright better mages in all circumstances (and trust me dragonskin in a battle against multiple tough mages recharges your magicka far faster then high born does).

In the end the differences don't really make that much difference. At the start of the game you get a novice hood and robes. Straight away just go the college of winterhold to get the novice destruction robes and another novice hood. In the 1st real quest you get an amulet with +30 magicka bonus, later on you get a circlet with +70 magicka if I remember correctly and finally you get the archmage robes for another +50 Magicka, -15% spell cost and 100% Faster Magicka regeneration. All in all the questline grants you gear of about +150 Magicka, -15% spell cost and 100% increased magicka rate, that alone is a bigger boon then any race gets and it's probably the easiest quest line out there.

The difference is you get an easier start with an Altmer. BY FAR. 5 extra levels of magicka which his great for beg/mid game. Not to mention Highborn which is great at EVERY level. Altmer are cleary the best choice for mages this time (unlike oblivion where the Bretons were clearly favored) and Bethesda makes sure you know it.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:59 pm

I'm just tired of Bethesda making Altmer the bad guys lately w/ snotty attitudes. It's getting boring.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:37 pm

They seem to be hunting me? I approached 3 of them and they instantly turned hostile, looted a note off their corpses with orders saying i must be eliminated. Now its on like donkey kong

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:55 am

I hated Altmer before it was cool to hate them
*Puts on Hipster Glasses*

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:36 pm

The difference is you get an easier start with an Altmer. BY FAR. 5 extra levels of magicka which his great for beg/mid game. Not to mention Highborn which is great at EVERY level. Altmer are cleary the best choice for mages this time (unlike oblivion where the Bretons were clearly favored) and Bethesda makes sure you know it.

Well it's not a by far since they're still the biggest pushovers when it comes to defense, they have nothing to protect themselves against anything. They have no defense against weapon, arrows or spells, they're glass cannons. They can out put the most spells but they're the only race with literally nothing to help with survival. Even Red Guard has 50% poison resistance. Breton has insane protection against spells, orcs take half damage from everything when they battlecry, Imperials get a fear power, Khajiit can flee faster... etc etc.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:18 am

You didn't already?

Ever since Morrowind I've hated the arrogant bastards. It finally snapped in Skyrim and I started whooping some gold-skin ass.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:46 pm

Well it's not a by far since they're still the biggest pushovers when it comes to defense, they have nothing to protect themselves against anything. They have no defense against weapon, arrows or spells, they're glass cannons. They can out put the most spells but they're the only race with literally nothing to help with survival. Even Red Guard has 50% poison resistance. Breton has insane protection against spells, orcs take half damage from everything when they battlecry, Imperials get a fear power, Khajiit can flee faster... etc etc.

I thought we were talking about the best mages? Not best bonus period....

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:33 pm

And you've JUST noticed this?

Me, Nords are starting to get on my nerves, at least the Stormcloaks, anyways.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:34 pm

Ok i wont base the entire race around it but I am really starting to hate the High Elves in Skyrim. Stupid Thalmor. First they take over the empire and they have that cocky attitude.

Agreed, [censored] the Thalmor. The Aldmeri Dominion can get the [censored] out of my neighborhood and go back to their island.

Cleanse them with holy fire! :flamethrower:

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:25 pm

I thought we were talking about the best mages? Not best bonus period....

The best mage is a living one, unless you're talking about Lich =P.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:30 pm

Personally, I like the Thalmor. They're elitist bastards, and I'm on PC... so...

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:56 pm

First reply pretty much summed up the problem, haha

Ok i wont base the entire race around it but I am really starting to hate the High Elves in Skyrim. Stupid Thalmor. First they take over the empire and they have that cocky attitude.

uhh... pretty sure they had the attitude first...

It's such a problem with altmer. Just because they are the superior race doesn't mean they get to say-it-out-loud. If only the Nazi-connotation wasn't so obvious. Though I guess it helps label them as The Bad Guys

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:52 am

A bunch of Thalmor were sent to assassinate me for no clear reason I could think of. After that I kill them basically on sight, arrogant jerks!

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:21 am

I thought we were talking about the best mages? Not best bonus period....

Seriously, 50 magicka is nothing, even early in the game. If your relying on 50 magicka to make or break your mage then your not a good mage.

In Skyrim you can seriously play an Orsimer mage and pick the warrior stone and you will not see any difference to an Altmer mage.

» Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:27 am

Thalmor are kill-on-sight for me.

Same, Was walking down the hill towards Whiterun when I encountered 3 warriors and 1 mage escorting some fella, and ofc I was like ok "nice random world even gotta check that out, maybe some fancy quest, but no two seconds later that guy started his arrogance speech" which resulted as; Me cuting his head off. :gun: :gun: :sadvaultboy:

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:56 pm

First reply pretty much summed up the problem, haha

It's such a problem with altmer. Just because they are the superior race doesn't mean they get to say-it-out-loud. If only the Nazi-connotation wasn't so obvious. Though I guess it helps label them as The Bad Guys

I prefer the Dunmeri mindset.

We are not superior, you're all just inferior.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:20 pm

Thalmor scum. Come to my country and tell me who I can and cannot worship, and sew dissent among the nords, and drive a wedge through the frail unity of human races so as to later attempt a complete takeover. Just lucky I can't absorb their souls either, or I'd so it! And I don't mean no measly little soul gem either!

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:00 pm

Thalmor scum. Come to my country and tell me who I can and cannot worship, and sew dissent among the nords, and drive a wedge through the frail unity of human races so as to later attempt a complete takeover. Just lucky I can't absorb their souls either, or I'd so it! And I don't mean no measly little soul gem either!

Azura's Black star, Black soul gems. Their souls are worthy of this.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:31 pm

Hate the Thalmor not the High Elves. Tamrielic, Cyrodiilic and Pisjic Altmer are some of the coolest characters in the game , plus they're almost guaranteed to hate their obnoxious genocidal brethern if they were exiled.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:55 pm

i kill high elves when i come across them. fixes their attitudes real quick.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:28 pm

Ok i wont base the entire race around it but I am really starting to hate the High Elves in Skyrim. Stupid Thalmor. First they take over the empire and they have that cocky attitude.

I have always hated their snotty holier than thou attitudes since Morrowind. Every time they open their mouth I want to shove my sword in it. I have yet to meet a decent Altmer in any of the games. I was planning on making a battlemage type altmer traitor to the dominion character.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:20 pm

Seriously, 50 magicka is nothing, even early in the game. If your relying on 50 magicka to make or break your mage then your not a good mage.

In Skyrim you can seriously play an Orsimer mage and pick the warrior stone and you will not see any difference to an Altmer mage.

You're arguing with mechanics... it's easier to be a Altmer Mage then any other race. You've got 5 levels to spend on health instead of magicka. That's a hell of a lot. Most bonuses don't offer that much. That's the point. Which makes it the better choice for a Pure Mage. Plus their Race Power, Highborn which is beyond useful. I'm just pointing out the facts. I have a Dark Elf mage but my Altmer mage was easier to play with.....