Hello first i want to say i love every TES Game,my favourite game series,then iwant to say i have been playing skyrim since the release and i still love it,but right now i have pretty much done everything,But i still love the game,But i just want to complete some questlines in oblivion like shivering isles and knights of the nine since i have forget much about it. And i am thinking of creating a paladin character,Any advice what i should choose? The race is going to be breton.Then the mage,But then? What should i choose?
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Its been out for about 6 months... aannnnd... you've done everything(?)...

No,Not everything, Buti have done much.

A Breton with Mage birthsign is a great choice. As you play, seek items to further boost the Breton's 50% resistance to magic. To help compensate for the Breton's physical frailty for paladin duty, I would pick endurance and strength as your favored attributes. Also consider pushing both those attributes up fairly aggressively as you play.

Major skill selection is tough because it depends so much on how fast and far you want to level. That said, there are some that I think most of us would recommend as pretty reasonable: Blade, Heavy Armor and Restoration.

Even though block and armorer are great skills for a paladin and level reasonably, you might want to be careful overloading the endurance skills (Heavy Armor is also an endurance skill). Taking two majors from the same attribute makes getting good attribute bonuses a little harder. Taking three makes it very hard. Remember, there is no diff between a major and minor skill at the same level in terms of effectiveness. Picking majors based purely on what you think 'fits' the nature of your character conflicts with controlled leveling and getting good attribute bonuses - IF those things are important to you. To some players, that is not important; they just pick what they like and bump the difficulty slider around to taste. You might want to think about a ranged attack ability - marksman or destruction are candidates for that purpose whether you pick them as majors or not. If you decide to use a bow for ranged targets, marksman makes a fine major because it levels very slowly - especially if not your primary killing skill. And marksman does not conflict with any of the attribute considerations of the three skills I recommended above as majors.

If all this sounds a bit complex and you play on the PC, you can simplify things tremendously via the command console or mods.

"Dang my character's walking too slow"
*setav speed 255*

Thanks for the advice Also i want blunt. and i play on xbox.. Just going to play oblivion again.forgot many things what happened in oblivion and so on. And i am going to choose block.

Acadian has some good advice
Breton, Mage
Blunt
Block
Restoration
Destruction/Marksman
Illusion? Are you going to charm people into liking you?
Athletics: This works out really well if you do not fast travel
Acrobatics ?

Just a note, if you think you've finished Skyrim then you'll stop playing Oblivion VERY quickly. Skyrim had far greater content, better dungeons and, in my opinion, better stories.

The Oblivion quest line is more Go here, talk/retrieve item, come back. With fast travel you'll finish it easy. I'm guessing you do Fast Travel. Either way, you might finish it very quickly unless you take your time. Just a word of warning.

On Topic though: A paladin can use a 2h weapon, usually a warhammer. I'd say they are more iconic for me, but then I wasn't born in the days of Dungeons and Dragons. Restoration is important, with the Turn Undead spells. I wouldn't reccommend getting Marksman with a meele skill, you'll never use it, and Marksman is very unpowerful unless you train it high. Balancing the two skills will prove challenging. You might want Heavy Armour, since you'll be in direct fire.

You may also want to choose skills you'll never use, to combat the Level scaling.

I like skyrim more then oblivion,Just going back for a while And i still love skyrim,and still playing it,just playing oblivion again,not much,but a little bit.

Good good Just giving you fair warning

Also i cant seem to like how NPCs look x) And my character... Takes ages for me to create the character i wanted. So i better play skyrim again,I feel stupid.

There are a few mod's out there to change things like that, but it'll always be cartoony. I played with a helmet on the entire time but I, like many others here, was used to Oblivion being the best of the best. This was before Crysis so, to me at that time, I thought Oblivions graphics were immense. Staring at the Imperial City in the sunset was tranquil and beautiful, whilst the views in Skyrim are harsh, unless you're near Falkreath or Riverwood.

My two septims:

Don't worry about the graphics. Just play. Worrying about pretty goes nowhere. What matters more is the substance underneath the surface. Oh! I thought we were talking about real life.

after 400 hours in between 3 charectors, I can officially say I have done everythong the game had to offer. Id have to disagree withe the stories though, once u get past the fugly faces and the tedious oblivion gates, I dunnoseeing how oblivion was my first tes game, the stories in skyrim seemed so lacklustered, quick, and most of them were alrdy fleshed out with greater detail in oblivion.
But as far as the expansions, beware seeing how knights is designed for a good guy and shimmering isles is made for a crazy and or bad guy.
Pallys are nice, a great way to play is to use a blunt and shield and destruction spells.
But have fun, I was in the process of aying a new charector but after a half asleep drunken accident my 50 hour oblivion toon and my first time ever 80 hour morrowind toon got deleted, so im focusing on morrowind then headimg to oblivion then maybe back to skyrim before I launch into replayong fo3 then fonv.

Im going to have to disagree with you completely... Skyrim's quests are the go there, retrieve, victory type quests... Oblivion's are way more detailed and rich, and I've come across some very interesting quests in my travels. Skyrim is so linear and boring, everything you do, you've done before, it's the same game amplified on a larger scale. Very sad to say the least. It definitely dosn't feel like an Elder Scrolls Game...

I miss the sense of wonder while exploring. I never really feel like I'm going to find anything really cool while searching due to the random loot everywhere.The npc's don't really feel 'real' to me, if you know what I mean. The list goes on:


-Regenerating health
-Replacing strength, edurance, etc with just health, magica, stamina, (I know the system in oblivion needed to be reworked, but they went too far, I don't like how you can't increase your speed or the amount you carry), as well as the different stats races and genders had
-Getting rid of hand to hand and acrobatics
-Armour doesn't degrade anymore
-Fewer armour/weapon types (no silver or mithril, in addition to the fact that you no longer need a silver weapon to harm spirits)
-Combining longsword and short sword into just sword
-Fewer spells, diseases, and enemy types.
-No more dark dungeons (underground caves are one of the two places in the world with absolute darkness, the other being the bottom of the ocean, they shouldn't be well lit, even with numorous torches on the wall)
-No reason to sleep (I know the whole you-need-to rest-to-level system was bad, but I find it funny how my man character has spent almost an in game year and only has one hour of sleep)
-Intros to Thieves and Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion were better
-No ranking within guilds (seriously, in the college of winterhold, I immediatly go from student to arch mage in a matter of in game days)
-Everyone in the cities spouting the same one line to you if you get within 10 feet (this is even worse than when the npcs have really disjoineted conversations in Oblivion)
-removal of disposition and morality systems (again, these were bad, but shouldn't have been taken out entirely)
-All horses have the same health and cost (exception being Shadowmere)
-removal of arena
-no one comments on your actions (the Black Horse corrier was something I kinda liked)
-the removal of enchanted arrows (I know this is a balancing issue, but I would like at least a small fire/ice bonus to my arrows)

This is just a small list.

Skyrim was just a big let down in general. They made it out to look so nice, but it's really not. One of the things I hate the most is that the UI is absolutely horrid. Another thing, its snowy in northern cyrodiil, but grass and trees in southern Skyrim? dosnt make sense. Also there is only 4 zones, (actually 2. Snowy mountainous noth, west east, swamps in the north-west, and south-east, and grass in the south, and middle... VERY boring.

The guilds are terrible. In the Dark Brotherhood, it takes 4 hours IRL to go from bum, to Listener, just cause some jester said so...

The main side quest (the war) is so bad it's not even funny. Like 10 quests, 9 of which are to go raid an enemy camp/castle and claim the land, then finally you come to the enemy town, and you do a little raid with 10-20 men and execute the leader... So dull..

Edit: Some more major flaws... Removal of birthsigns was a big mistake. Attributes was also a big mistake. The map totally blows for me because it ruins a lot of the surprises, I come around a mountain, ALREADY knowing there will be a lake there... sigh...

And probably one of the biggest things of all... The game is so easy. Not even a slight challenge on Master difficulty. I can 1 hit giants/blood dragons no problem... It's overall just bad.

inb4: Play Oblivion

P.S. The graphics in Oblivion are not even bad... I like them as a matter of fact.

Folks, this thread is about Oblivion, not Skyrim.

edit: nvm

Breton is fine. But I wanna know if you FT much. In OB I find myself FT'ing much more than in Skyrim simply because isn't as much fine detail and random encounters.

In Skyrim, I personally never FT. Simply because they did so well on the design. OB, while still very scenic, isn't as finely detailed as SK; though still very good. OB is a much "friendlier" world if you kinda get what I'm sayin. It's more fantastical I believe.

Nonetheless, I really enjoy the magic, or rather, the freedom of magic (creating, spell effects) in OB more than SK although I think Skyrim's magic is prettier.

The guilds and DLC are what's so much fun to me. I'm not gonna go into too much detail but OB's guilds are great!

Lastly, I loved armorer in OB! I loved going through forts and repairing all my enemies stuff and then selling it for a greater price! Oh well, at least in Skyrim I can loot everything then go enchant the weapons with banish (which is a cash machine)!

Anyway, just my input. Can't really say which game is better but I will definitely give 'em both 10's if I were to hand out scores. Both are exceptional, just for different reasons.

Oh my god..
And alsoi prefer skyrim over oblivion but this thread is not a oblivion vsskyrim thread.. soo keep that out of here please

I shall refrain from stating my opinion, don't want to upset Blahs44. Either way, i'm sure you'll enjoy both games They are still in TES series <3

Opinions won't upset me in any way... everyone has their own... and mine (also many others) feel that Skyrim is a 'bad' game, and that it does not feel like an Elder Scrolls game...

That's funny, your extremely long and aggressive reply led me to believe otherwise


It's got the Lore, its got the Gameplay similar to Oblivion. Same company behind it? Perhaps you have you reasons why you don't like it, but you can't honestly compare Oblivion to Skyrim. They are two separate games. Like you can't compare Morrowind to Oblivion.

Why not? You can compare it, because it's part of the series. See the advantages & disadvantage of each game, compared to each other.

I wasnt aggressive at all.. simply stating my opinion..

Remember guys, Oblivion vs. Skyrim isn't the point of this thread
OP: I really can't add to the advice you've been given, me being an Oblivion new player and all! Have fun!