For those that think Implant GRX perk is not that great versus a normal turbo chem
check this out

trait
Logan's Loophole

perks
Implant GRX Rank 2
Chemist
Day Tripper
Fast Times


now open your inventory and use all 10 Implant GRX Turbos at once

result---------

no I'm not kidding a total of

total 7 min 30 seconds in turbo time, that's using a stop watch in real world time

yep each one with all these Perks is 45 seconds long!

and on top of this you only need to wait 2 HOURS in game anywhere and all 10 of them return

rinse and repeat

this is simply incredible

in hardcoe with a little planning of food and water you could literally spend the whole game in turbo time!

Wait so the perks Chemist, Day Tripper, and Fast Times effect GRX? I thought they didn't, but this is great news! GRX is by far one of my favorite perks, simply because I can never seem to find turbo.

they sure do.

However ....with only Chemist, Day Tripper, and Fast Times and 2 ranks in GRX i was getting very low turbo times but Logans loophole must of done something exponential

Though it is too late for my current character to do this, I will certainly make a new later just for this. Thanks for the info!

Now if the GRX could only be hotkeyed...

Darn I was level 35 when I started OWB, so I couldn't get Logans loophole. But I don't need alot of turbo time, just enough to line up my saving shots.


Man I wish that could be done. Make it alot more easy to use in the heat of battle.

you guys might be interested in this mod, it lets you hotkey the GRX implant

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=42926

i have it hot keyed now, so far it working great

Now if only mods were available for the 360 :celebration: . Though I am sure PC users will find it helpful, as I know I would have :yes:

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Implant_GRX

Apparently fast times dosent work.

How do you have rank 2 with logans loophole, isnt it a lvl 30 perk ?

yes if you lvl up in Good Springs, yes some of us did level up without killing Ringo or the mantis forearm glitch,

if you level above 30 in Goodsprings upon exiting and choosing traits and choosing Logan loophole you will gain level beyond 30 but you cant assign any skill points but every 2 levels you WILL still get perks. Weird i know but giving up skill points at 30 still hurts quite a bit.

Whoa whoa whoa, slow that roll. You can take Logan's Loophole if you level past 30 in Goodsprings then leave and respec and still get the perks for levels past 30?

You must msg me how. I don't want to kill ringo. GT same as username. Plzzzz...

I've been Turbo to much so ill slow down

If you lvl up past 30 in Goodsprings lets say with all the DLC's so far, you level up to 45 in goodsprings

when you leave goodsprings and respec and choose Logan's Loophole as a trait you will be able to choose skills and perks until level 30

after level 30 however you will not be able to gain any more skills.

However you WILL be gaining perks ever 2 lvls as normal. So in this cast after lvl 30 you would still be able to choose 7 more perks.

So lvl 30 you get your last skills and perks

lvl 32 34 36 38 40 42 44 you will be able to choose new perks.

This is how i got 2 ranks of GRX turbo implant AND have Logan's loop hole.

Anything not clear just ask again ill try to explain better.




Oh and for s13racer316 it's not easy and its incredibly boring, but you can manage to lure 2 powdergangers into goodsprings, drag there bodies , in my case i dragged them to outside of the Docs house.

Also you can lure 10-12 baby radscorpions placed in the back of the docs house and close the fence so they cant run away,

then 3 of 4 geckos i put over by the sunset sarsaparilla dispenser.

All you do is kill the 2 powerder gangers, the 3-4 geckos, then the remaining rad scorpions.

You get around 150 xp each run i think. Then just go back into the docs house and eat the gecko meat and drink the sink water and rest for 4 days and they all respawn.

Boring and annying i know but youll make some good money and i managed to get all the perks like fast times and set lasers for fun and melee hacker all that stuff before leaving Goodspings.

The only thing to be carefull is to not get to many bodies in the same area or they will disappear. You don't want to loose those 2 respawning powder gangers they have great stuff to sell and the best xp in goodsprings.

Yes you can lure Giant Redscorpions into Goodsprings area but they dont seem to respawn or if they do after 4 days there gone.

Since the mantis leg exploit is patched, and nobody wants to kill poor Ringo, the only way I've found is the good ol' fashioned way. Kill things. You can start with the geckos near the wells, and move up to Giant Radscorpions when you've leveled up enough and got a .357 magnum or Plasma Pistol from Chet (nothing else does enough damage). You can find the scorpions by standing at the edge of the cemetery and firing shots into the gulch where they spawn. Start by crouching and when "caution" appears, stand up to attract attention. Just keep that up until "danger" pops up and a scorpion should head up the hill. I've currently got 2 spawn-locked in the cometary, so I just fast travel and 2 sneak attacks criticals with the .357 magnum and presto: 100 xp.

Wow, I kinda figured this is what you ment but that's some time you gotta invest. Well, I guess it beats screwing over goodsprings.

It's a reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally slow grind. I was 45 when I started thanks to doing the mantis foreleg glitch to get that high (I'm on PS3, so my cap is 50). So I made a save of that, and now I'm working on the Radscorpion grinding till Lonesome Road comes out. Started yesterday, and I'm about 3,000 exp from 46.

s13racer316 & Tluav Boy grats to both of you for not Killing Ringo and just grinding away.

Besides like i said get all those perks like Fast Times, Day Tripper, Melee Hacker, Set laser for fun, bug stomper ETC while in Goodsprings, its really fun to gain those rewards before leaving.