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:( i wish i had a PC, that sounds so useful.

I think Steam is great, and I approve of this message :goodjob:

+1

Steam is a great program, and I am extremely pleased with this choice.

inb4rage

Surprised Beth would do this. At least you could get rid of GFWL in FO3.

I want to buy and play to FNV, but I will finally not buy and play to FNV... only because the retail box use Steam.

I had many problems with Steam in the past and I don't want use it now.

Why don't use a classic DRM for retail ? Finally, you will be also pirated... Search other games with steam protection on Google with the keyword "torrent" and you will find easily. Supreme Commander 2 with Steam was piraded only one day after release. This will be the same for FNV. You will always lose sold from pirates, but now also from honest customers who need/want real retail boxes games.
DRMs like this is more annoying for honest buyers than pirates...

The CD Projekt opinion on DRM :
http://tw2.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=29226.0
http://tw2.thewitcher.com/forum/index.php?topic=29225.0

Another +1

I been having STEAM for years and NEVER had a problem with it.

:goodjob:

Steam is awesome, and it's a million times better than GFWL, but there will inevitably be users with problems. They'll come here and say "SEE? WE TOLD YOU NOT TO USE IT FFS!!!".

And also, Steam isn't only a precaution against piracy, it also prevents resales by permanently registering the game to your personal account.

Could be worse I guess. I don't particularly hate steam or anything, but still... I'm just gonna wait and see before I start complaing about anything.

If you think that they need to get the steam servers, you are wrong, it would work like a little piece of code that gets run on your computer, if it finds you have your steam client open, it will then run its code thru it, or spoofing the steam client, and by that getting full rights to do whatever it bloody well wants to do, like corrupting windows, deleting files, install anything it wants, etc, without your knowledge. So no tinfoil hat on my head, just knowledge.

(this post moved from the thread locked because of 200 posts? at http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1096774-best-least-intrusive-experience-for-pc-gamers/page__st__200 )

Millions of people use Steam. I've used Steam for about a year now, and my computer is still Virus free.

[Citation Needed]

Re: The question about whether the disc would contain the game itself and if you would need a lengthy download.

It is likely that the disc would have the game itself. However, steam usually won't allow you to go into offline mode without updating the game, so if patches are big and you've got a bad connection, you can be waiting a while.



I like their thoughts. It's better to educate and reward than beat and punish your horse/kids/whatever. In this case, Bethesda have earned my respect, up until now. I want to buy their products, so please don't give me a reason not to.

To the people who think steam is great. That's fine if you use it, I use it myself for a few games. But I don't want to have to use it, so I think this is a very bad decision.

Hey, I've used and currently use Steam and think it works great..... but I still think requiring online authentication of a single-player, non-online, non-digital-distribution-only game is silly. I think it's very close to the "does this inconvenience legitimate users more than pirates" threshold. And I feel sorry for any people out there with crappy and/or no broadband access, who'll be unable to run this software.

/shrug

I could say the exact same thing. In fact, I think I almost have before! So basically, I agree.

To be honest, out of all the DRM methods out there, steam is the best choice, GFWL was stupid as hell to use, confusing, and I don't need to mention DLC problems. Secrurom or what ever it is, I got exited out of the game all the time because of something running in the background. Steam on the other hand I haven't had a problem with once, hell, steam has HELPED me quite a bit too. I get a lot of good games during their sales, I have no idea why anyone wants anything besides steam.

Steam is awesome - no more running to the stores on launch day and playing within hours of the game being released ftw!

(Fallout: New Vegas - 5th in the Top Sellers list on steam... says enough).

The last time I used Steam was when it was in it's infancy when I bought Half-Life when it was put back on the market after Half-Life 2. Back then of course was also on a 56k connection.

and it isn't even out for half a year, pretty sure thats a record, hope they let you guys preload it, the download times on launch day are a huge pain in the ass.

For those talking about downloading files even when you buy at retail, Steam does do this. I bought Metro 2033 at retail and was forced to download over 2GB of data after the disc installation. It was talked about all over the Steam forums too... they kept a lot of content off the disc in some useless attempt to delay piracy.

Steam doesn't release games until the late afternoon, you can play quicker by going to the store, or in my case ordering from amazon with free release day shipping.

I don't think they are trying to stop piracy, Steam is literally useless for that and these companies are not stupid. The reason to use Steamworks as a mandatory DRM system is to eliminate resale and control all use of the product. That is what people do not understand, these companies are leading us to a place where you no longer control access and use of your media, and people are swallowing it. It's unfortunate that so many people would literally choose a controlling account system over no DRM what-so-ever.

Fixed.

Nah I meant what I said, thanks for trying though.

All games I had pre-order through Steam in the recent past have been available early morning on said release date.
Maybe it's to do with different timezones or such, I dunno. :shrug: