it seems bethesda is claiming that BR price is the same as the rest of the world on their support, what a joke, this problem is also now on GAF, how long can bethesda ignore this?

To begin with, yeah, im a brazilian and this forum proboly heard about the stupidy ammount charged by Bethesda in its new instalment.

249,99 reals (on Steam store at the time) This goes twice as much charged by witcher 3 wich cost 129,99 (without the discount before launch) and way less goes to GTA V wich is simply 99,99.

I honestly can`t belive this is right, Fallout is truly one of the best series I`ve ever played but not even their predecessors costed this nonesense.

I understand this could be a simple mistake soon to be fixed considering the incident with Mortal Kombat X wich landed at a pre-purchase (just like Fallout 4 is now) 999,99 bucks and it was promptly fixed after a few days.

What i`m trying to do here is make this concernen voiced and hope that this community along with other brazilian players share the same concerns.

If even a administrator of this forum could give me/ us some info on the matter it would mean alot to me/us who enjoy this franchise and wants a FAIR price to be able to enjoy and invest in future prodcuts.

Either I gone crazy(which is very possible) or I feel like I seen this thread today.

Seems that the regional prices aren't a call of Bethesda, however they should look into it since the price is way way over the market usual prices.

79.55USD

Wow, that's a lot of money for a game. I'll definitely be waiting for the Ultimate Edition then. Anything over $50 is getting outrageous as far as I'm concerned.

What exactly is the exchange rate of br? Also are there capital controls in place in brazil? I seem to recall hearing about how the government tends to make getting cash out of the country painful.

1USD = 3,14244055BRL

1USD= 3.17 in Brazil. And if you thinks that's crazy see what the Philippines is.

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Hello Guys.

I'm a Brazilian PC player, and a FAN of Bethesda and Fallout. But i got scared when i looked at pre-order price here on Brasil. It's BRL R$ 249,99 the price is the more expensive in WORLD.

Please say its an error. We cant afford a game for such price. Its digital distribuition no big taxes, why this price?

A lot of foruns are blaming Bethesda, but i think it is just a misunderstand.

Please correct the price, so we can buy the game.

Thanks.

Exchange prices are crap for Brazil right now, isn't that why Nintendo just stopped doing business all together in Brazil?

Yeap But digital distributions have lower taxes than retail. Compared to retail digital has 80-90% less taxes in Brazil. So it cant be ~U$ 83,00 for a digital game.

Even if could be, how games with the same price in USD have a price in BRL way way lower?

PC games are usually cheaper in Brazil. The average price at launch for PC games is 99 reais (33 us dollars). Rockstar, EA, CD Projekt launch their games at this price. Ubisoft usually launchs them at 40 usd. And you can find Arkham Knight for 25 dollars in some online stores.

So 79 dollars for a PC game in Brazil is just ridiculous. Only console games are that expensive.

Even console games aren't that expensive. 3ds games are U$50, PS4/XBox1/WiiU games are U$60. Its outrageous the current Fallout 4 price.

I would love an answer.

What are you paying them in? Consider it from their perspective. They get paid in a currency they don't want, is fairly volatile, and then have to turn around and exchange it for a currency they can use.

Thats also assuming that the country doesn't have taxes on each step they have to take. Or that there aren't other issues with getting the cash out of Brazil. I know in the past they have had some fairly odd things that were taxed.

there are no taxes on Digital games, many examples were brought here, like GTA V for 99 reais, Dragon Age Inquisition 99. The Witcher 3 being sold for 80 reais on pre-order, Batman Arkham Knight for 119,99 reais, there is no excuse for this, its just pure greed

Wow, that is crazy. Op, I hope it works out for you and it is dropped to a more reasonable price.

Your also saying that they don't offer the game physically? You might very well be subsidizing that. And god only knows what sort of contracts they have. For example I'd be pissed if I was a store owner, and had to sell the game at a really marked up rate because of taxes, while the digital people get it much cheaper.

Also, lets face it. Your comparing some fairly massive studios to Zenimax. EA, and Time Warner respectively.

you are definding them? let me make things clear to you, even PC physical copies have fair taxes, a Physical PC copy costs 99 reais with late games from WB going up to a 119 reais, so NO, even if Zenimax was using WB to sell physical PC copies, the market is alredy used to PC being 99~119, thats why local digital retailer Nuuvem sells their digital games for less, so no, there is no excuse for this greed, PC games do not share the same taxes as console games because they fall under software and Console games do not, this is all Bethesda greed, a lot examples were brought here and every single one of those had Physical PC releases here costing the same as the Steam price while Nuuvem offers a lower price.

Local digital retailer is very likely subject to different tax rates (are they also selling Fallout 4 at that rate higher rate?). Also, all the games I have seen mentioned were developed by *large* and *established* companies. So they already know the playing field.

Also, its nice and neat to talk about "fair" taxes. But try and break down what sort of taxes the company is paying in Brazil. Not altogether familiar with the taxing system, so I am simply used http://thebrazilbusiness.com/article/the-16-most-common-brazilian-taxesto get a quick and dirty idea. Depending on which of those apply, that 'fair' tax gets fairly painful.

To get to the argument that other companies are doing business cheaply. As noted, those companies are large. Its easy to see them hoping that quantity of software will make up for low cost. Zenimax doesn't exactly pump out lots of titles. (Compared to say EA)

Lastly, my main objection is the leap that Zenimax must be greedy, because these other companies are able to sell their software cheaply. I think we should at least try and see if there are reasons that might explain the cost.

what part of "there is no TAX on digital sales" you did not understand?, there is NO TAX, simple as that, NONE of those taxes fall under digital goods, dude i know you must love bethesda and zenimax, but there is NO physical edition for PC announced

there is no argument of large companies, because many other small ones are selling their games for this common price, you ARE ignoring all other examples, in this thread there are MANY examples of other big companies doing this price change as a "mistake", like Warner, Square and Activision, they ALL want to charge PC users THE SAME PRICE CONSOLE GAMERS PAY only to later change the price without saying anything, there is no TAXES or ANYTHING forcing Bethesda to charge this price, this exact 249 reais is the current console games price, this is SIMPLE GREED, there is no spinning this, read the thread again, and if you dont want to, go to Nuuvem and see for yourself the prices of PC games on both "big" companies and "small" ones, following your flawed logic of "small" zenimax(Zenimax and Bethesda are not small, stop saying that) Lords of the Fallen dev should have sold the game much higher than 80 reais no? that was the price i paid on Nuuvem, stop definding this, your very logic is flawed big time, Bethesda was one of the first publishers to adopt local fair prices on Brazil when Steam moved to Reais, Zenimax is being greedy and thats the end of story, the reason they are doing this is the same for the other publishers, to see if the local market will "bite" this, and they will fail like all others.