One of the most memorable quests in Morrowind imo.

Almalexia gifts us with another nice spear in Tribunal. Hircine's Spear is a possible reward in Bloodmoon. They were all good weapons, I'd like to see them all come back too.

I never really cared for spears in Morrowind.

I definitely miss spears. I do see how it might be a bit more difficult than the other weapons while also being the least used, but they were so cool. I can live without though as long as there is plenty of weapon variety other than that.

Did he really say that? Of course not.

A trick used in law is to substitute the item of a complaint with some other item, doing so often leads to a greater understanding of the situation by revealing any prejudice that may be obscuring the underlying issue. Thankfully the decision on spears is not a life or death argument. Thankfully too, our law is not based on the principle of 'I don't like' or 'I don't use' therefore your argument is invalid.

'Less is more' is the mantra of snake oil salesmen, the mantra of business is 'while y > x, cut costs' (where Y = current sales and X = previous sales) and marketing departments around the world delight in the masses embrace of increasing mediocrity. Nowhere are these facts more obvious than in the current world of computer game design and while Beth. do most certainly give value for money it is up to us, minority though we are, to keep pushing for quality and quantity least they become complacent and succumb to the disease of rationalisation for the sake of profit that proved to be the true blight in the world of Dragon Age.



They removed levitation and bug lamps just to get to me. I know this for fact. Todd said so in an interview I once read in a dream

Pretentious aren't we

there WONT be spears, why make this thread?

Another topic on spears? Really? If it's in the game then great. If not so what. Not a big deal to me

Why is this guy so worried about spears? Whats the big deal? It was already confirmed that spears are not in. End of story. :cookie:

:snoring:

Well I think after all of this threads there can be two outcomes
First spears will be implemented in game
Second M'aiq the Liar will have to say us something :teehee:
At my sight having only one option for polearms type weapons (bardiche) when there is also can be spears and staves and only one option marksman bows when there is also can be throwing weapons, strange it isn't hard to be done why not add them?

Yes they should just add spears because everybody ask about it, even though polearms are already in. They also shouldn't matter with silly concepts like unique playstyle or actual realistic uses of spears, they should just add them and make them work like every other weapon... just because people want spears...

Or maybe I'm not "real Elder Scrolls fan" to appreciate spears as much...

Well stop whining about it and accept the fact that there won't be any in Skyrim. Not. A. Chance. Simply wanting doesn't make something change.
Get over it.

In elder scrolls, spears = polearms and polearms = spears. All polearms were lumped together under the 'spears' skill, regardless of whether they were halberd or bardiche. Same with katanas as swords (or axes as blunt, ffs).

When we say we want spears, we actually mean polearms. Polearms/spears are NOT going to be in the game.

I voted no.

I hated spears in Morrowind, such a terrible weapon I thought.

Uh, yes they will be in the game.
At least halberds will be as there are screenshots about them.
Also the whole "not in a traditional sense" can be best interpreted as polearms will be in the game, but they won't get their own weapon category.

No, we won't even get polearms of any kind. There were never any screenshots with anything remotely resembling a polearm let alone a spear. There were a couple early concept art pieces with something like a pike, but those were just that: conceptual pieces. And plus, if they went through all the effort of implementing polearms, why wouldn't they add spears in too? That would be completely nonsensical, and why we won't see any polearms.

I dont care if they are in or not but it would be cool to have a big throwing spear. Fight with sword and shield and keep the spear on your back for when the dragons come and chuck it at it.

I'd like spears... but I really don't care. Polearms will be sufficient enough.

EDIT: Arseth, you're being an ass. Just because there hasn't been a screenie with polearms (which I'm doubtful?) doesn't mean they aren't in. It's pretty early to say that already. I'm sure spears are a subset of the polearms skill.

He's been acting like that in all his threads. He thinks his ideas are the definitive way of doing things and if you don't agree with him, or don't care for the features he wants, then you don't "care as much about TES" as he does.

Perhaps I am being an ass. It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it.

And you're being quite ridiculous - it's not too early to say at all. When asked in the podcast if there will be spears, Todd replied "No", saying nothing about polearms. We have seen screenshots featuring swords, claymores, maces, bows, and daggers, but zero polearms . Skyrim is a matter of months away, all things point towards there being no polearms, and that is why we must act now in order to change this.


Well it seems that my ideas aren't that bad after all, seeing as 65% of people agree with me in this thread, and almost a third in the other. I am speaking for a significant portion of ES fans here, not just myself.

Far from definitive. Also, nice job combining two of the three poll options to get your 65%. And as far as your other thread goes, if a third agree with you that means two thirds don't. Nice try though.

I agree with Arseth, and I don't even know who he is. Really, more skills = more flexibility = better character creation = more appeal to a wider crowd.

And why do many of you simply assume that some form of polearms will be included in the game? As it stands now, all things point in the wrong direction - for all we know, they could be teetering on the edge of the decision as we speak! We have no way of knowing. Is it not better to err on the side of caution and keep pressuring the issue? If polearms end up being in, then fine, we would have wasted out time in this thread, big deal. But what if they're not? We would have stood idly by doing nothing!

What if this very thread was the tipping factor in there being polearms? It's possible, and nobody knows. So keep bringing attention to the issue instead of being a negative, resigned pacifist.

Combining two of the three poll options? What are you talking about...

Just because two thirds rather have dragon shouts doesn't mean they don't want spellcrafting in as well. Even so, a third is still a significant portion. Nobody ever said majority rules.

No. Sorry.