Is it still possible in this day and age to have a Revolutio : Othor Games

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:43 am

ha ha I'm with you comrade! Vive la révolution!

Seriously um probably not. In the 1960s it was extremely difficult to do, Fidel Castro had a lot of organization, support and backing and even then he had a tough time. Today I think its not really possible to overthrow a government.

Depends on which government :evil:

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:56 pm

2. Do you really think a government is going to eliminate thousands of people who just happened to not really like them and expressed that? I can tell you that there'd be even MORE angry people after you shoot the first ones. You wouldn't get anywhere.

It's more an issue of people getting scared and giving up after the first oh, I don't know, few thousand executions.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:49 pm

Theoretically, yes. If everyone grabbed a gun and started attacking all public authorities. I don't think it is likely, though.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:05 pm

To all of you who are saying it's not possible because the governments have vastly superior armies, I bring you two points.

1. Often in revolutions, the army is either caught off-guard or they support the revolution. Or they don't do anything, of course.

2. Do you really think a government is going to eliminate thousands of people who just happened to not really like them and expressed that? I can tell you that there'd be even MORE angry people after you shoot the first ones. You wouldn't get anywhere.

1. Even if a modern army is caught off guard, they have vastly superior intelligence and communication networks than they did even 20 years ago.
2. See Stalin and Hitler, the Khmer Rouge, the Ethopian Red Terror, etc. There are plenty of examples where a country was under a systematic wave of genocide and the people were unable to do anything to stop it.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:10 pm

Why did everyone assume the OP meant political?

Revolutions of all kinds are fairly common.

Oh, how about that one in the 70's where some guys were in their garage and made a home computer. Or how about that one guy who stole drop-down menus from Xerox (?) and then revolutionized what those guys in the garage did. Then somebody decided to put that all on a phone? Wait, what about the cell phone? Gwon! None of those are revolutionary?

OK then, how about women's rights? That happened relatively recently here in the US, and is happening elsewhere as we speak.

All it takes is someone with a good idea, and a good publicist

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:06 pm

Why did everyone assume the OP meant political?

Revolutions of all kinds are fairly common.

Oh, how about that one in the 70's where some guys were in their garage and made a home computer. Or how about that one guy who stole drop-down menus from Xerox (?) and then revolutionized what those guys in the garage did. Then somebody decided to put that all on a phone? Wait, what about the cell phone? Gwon! None of those are revolutionary?

All it takes is someone with a good idea, and a good publicist

Well, violent revolutions is what we mean. Like, could another - as we call it in the states - Revolutionary War start.
It's a perfectly valid question, I mean, what's thousands of years of societal improvement mean anyway.

Hell, while we're at it, could another crusade be possible in this day and age?

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:38 am

I thought I should point out that there is a revolution going on now in Tunisian.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/world/story/2011/01/14/tunisia-riot-ben-ali.html

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:08 am

I think a revolution hinges on someone to lead it and rally people to it. When people start starving and can't afford heat or gas then maybe. Who knows.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:41 am

theoretically, as long as people have the leader(s) that will lead the country and as long as the said leader(s) and people have the firepower to back them up, yes we can, even in this day and age. will we or not, that's another question.

I like how in Greece and France, the people are not happy they can shut down the entire country, and then the goverment listens.

now, see, that seems sufficient enough. considering that the main, or one of the main, causes for revolutions is people unhappy with the government and want the government to change the things they are not happy about, i think this model is as close as we need to come to revolution these days.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:01 pm

Revolutions do exist in this day and age, but not on the grand scale that maybe considered a coup de ta by some. Only time you see that is in some African village where they overthrow the ruler for another ruler. However I think that is starting to become less and less common place. As to how to go about starting a revolution....why do you want to start one?

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:11 am

Revolutions do exist in this day and age, but not on the grand scale that maybe considered a coup de ta by some. Only time you see that is in some African village where they overthrow the ruler for another ruler. However I think that is starting to become less and less common place. As to how to go about starting a revolution....why do you want to start one?

Just so you know, it's 'coup d'etat', or if you want to show you know your stuff, it's 'coup d'état'...

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:15 am

Hell, while we're at it, could another crusade be possible in this day and age?

You're treading in dangerous waters...Are you sure we aren't in one already?

» Mon May 16, 2011 10:56 pm

Boycott, boycott, boycott. That's what I do to the companies I disagree with. Its the corporations and the banks that have power, not the government. Sure, you might not make much of an impact when its just one of you (but it does add up, trust me)... but if we all worked together we could see these corporations shrivel up and die. Its all up to us, the consumers, to determine how strong they are and how much power they have.

Personally, I give my money to companies I agree with, who use technology for the greater good (i.e. the internet) - and boycott the ones that cause destruction to the planet (Smithfield, Tyson, Monsanto etc.).

» Tue May 17, 2011 11:39 am

Step 1: Start a Facebook group.

Recently parliament members' salary was raised here in Finland. As a response some set up facebook group calling for a general strike. You can guess the how succesfull that was :lmao:

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:28 am

There is always potential for revolution. Governments and media can play their part in keeping the lid on any potential unrest but if enough people have got the taste for revolution it can and will happen.

Yep. Tunisa for example.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:45 am

Yes!

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:55 am

o.0 wish i had more time to read this topic didnt think would get so many replies in such a short time (is it still on teh same topic or did it get derailed at some point?)

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:41 am

It's your thread. If you can't be bothered to read through this then I despair to think of your efforts to actually add to discussions in other peoples' threads.

Ironically, it was on topic until you posted to ask whether it was.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:28 pm

I dont see why not, If a country's people are pushed to a certain point.

» Mon May 16, 2011 11:39 pm

You're treading in dangerous waters...Are you sure we aren't in one already?

We are not taking back previously conquered lands that the Muslims took, so no, we're not.

» Tue May 17, 2011 8:37 am

Depends on what kind of revolution you mean

There are other types of revolutions other than those that involve war. So yes it is still very possible to have a revolution but more or less major revolutions at this point are highly unlikely.

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:47 pm

Why, what are you planning OP?

Yeah Ninja'd.

Ofc revolutions can happen, they might even happen real soon.

» Tue May 17, 2011 12:32 pm

There are other types of revolutions other than those that involve war. So yes it is still very possible to have a revolution but more or less major revolutions at this point are highly unlikely.

He obviously means fashion revolutions.

OP, would you like to hear more of the sequin comeback I'm planning? It's going to blow the tyranny of the faded jeans' domination away forever.

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:37 am

The men who create power make an indispensable contribution to the Nation’s greatness, but the men who question power make a contribution just as indispensable, especially when that questioning is disinterested, for they determine whether we use power or power uses us.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

JFK

:)

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:23 am

There's a lot of dynamics as to IF a revolution can happen. The do happen, even today, so the IF is irrelevant.

The real question is WHY a revolution happens. It's always rooted in the populace being upset enough to risk everything and resort to violence to bring change. How much discord is needed to make this happen depends on what a society is like. A pampered people might need a lot before rage drives them into the street. A abysmally-poor people might need a lot because they are used to suffering.

I don't pretend to know where the lines are drawn.