From what I've seen it's M but possible borderline T. I'll go with M and I don't see anything wrong with M as you can do more with a M rated game then you could in a T rated game.

Because the game is still in Alpha stages. The ESRB and Pegi rating groups do not look at games until they are in Beta stages and almost complete.

They weren't aiming for a Teen rating with Oblivion. They were expecting a Mature rating and it was the ESRB's mistake for not playing enough of the game to see the horrific gore found in it. They have explained this numerous times. Do you just repeat what other people say or do actually believe Bethesda are a bunch of liars?

It will definitely be an early childhood game. What better way to teach kids?

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/op-ed/797-Boobies-Did-Not-Break-the-Game-The-ESRB-Clears-the-Air-On-Oblivion

Actually the nudity had no bearing at all on the game being rerated to M. Nothing. It was mostly the various gore-a-thon segments, which the ESRB didn't look closely at until the nudity prompted a more intense re-examine.

eC, definitely going to be eC :tops: but really, most likely M.

They never made any such claim. Stop slandering Bethesda.


I know it didn't. I'm correcting the statement that Bethesda included nipbles on their female body textures. They did not.

The Elder Scrolls is a mature game

Most likely M, It seems like it will be more violent that Oblivion, M rated, but less that Fallout 3, M rating. So M.
Also, I find Ratings Misleading and they tend to point out the littlest things. Like on Oblivions, it has Language and sixual Themes. The only times sixual content in vanilla Oblivion was possibly at Sanguines Shrines, and even then, that doesn't seem like much. For Language, only bastard and damn was said, which both aren't really cuss words. I could go through a number of my other games and point out things that are suppose to be in them that aren't.

I don't think ratings are getting more picky, its just that with a higher level of realism, games are getting more violent, gorey, and sometimes sixual.

I don't like how the 'M' option is glorified as if that makes it a better game, but it will be M. Others already covered the rating thing.

WHY DO YOU WRITE EVERYTHING IN ALL CAPS?

But yes, it will most likely be M.

I don't think Bethesda aims for a certain rating or tries to push the boundaries of said rating, they just make the game and let the ESRB slap whatever on it.

yeah like cod mw2 oh thats m or bf oh thts m sry how bout dora or .......................................... nope thats to dumb

In the name of American squemishness, i predict an "M" rating.

Capital! I completely agree with this. Our society has quite a bit of backward logic indeed.

E, obviously.

I'd imagine it will be rated M myself, while we haven't seen any gore and as far as we know there probably isn't any nudity, swearing or explicit six, the fact is that the M rating can cover a pretty broad range of content, most likely because it's the highest rating a game can get short of AO, which is pretty much a death sentence as far as sales are concerned and is really only reserved for games that are literally interactive pormography and other such extreme things, I mean, the fact that both Oblivion and Fallout 3 have the same rating is the perfect evidence. Granted, Oblivion was rated T upon release, but it's rating is now M, so obviously ESRB felt that it deserved that rating, even though it's pretty tame as far as M rated games go. There isn't really all that much blood and it dissappears pretty quickly, and the only gore is in the environment and zombie models, and it's really not all that detailed, and what language it has is pretty mild, really no worse than what you might hear on American TV, and the only sixual content in the game is implied. Fallout 3 on the other hand has some fairly extreme gore, you get dismemberments and exploding limbs and no shortage of blood, and a lot of the ambient gore in the game is also pretty graphic, just look at all the multilated corpses the raiders like to hang around their hideouts or the bags full of multilated body parts super mutants like to collect for some reason. Not to mention there's no shortage of swearing, though in terms of sixual content, I'd say New Vegas is more extreme even though nothing is actually shown, I mean, you can even spend "quality time" with a robot, that's something you don't see in many games, but it's still rated M. Regardless, though, if ESRB thought Oblivion deserved to be rerated to M, I'll be quite surprised if Skyrim gets a T rating.



I wouldn't necessarily say an M rating makes a better game. Some games don't have lots of blood and gore because they don't need it, and adding them in won't necessarily help the game at all. But if you're afraid of getting an M rating, then there's little chance that you'll be able to make the best game possible, as if you aim for a lower rating, you may be inclined to leave more extreme content out even when it would benefit the game. To truly produce the best game possible you should develop it without a specific rating in mind, and do whatever will make the best game possible, otherwise, whether you add things purely for the sake of increasing the rating or cut some things to keep it down, it may be detrimental to the finished product. Still, an M rating does not automatically make a good game, any more than a T or lower rating automatically makes a bad one.

While I agree the nipble texture is not why it was re-rated. It prompted a reevaluation however it was indeed the gore and such that prompted the re-rating.

Wouldn't they have to finish the game to get it rated? Seems pretty obvious why at least to me.
I'm guessing an M rating since oblivion was rather tame and that ended up with an M.

I know it's going to be M, but I hope A.
Currently A is a kiss of death for game makers, since most retailers wouldn't take a title with that rating.
But if TES 5 is A, they would have no choice but to place it on their shelves. Especially after they have sold the pre-order copies.
It may hurt the sales a bit, but it could open the floodgate for everyone.

We live in a cursed country where Parents has us. Democratic is 99 wolves and a sheep voting for tonight's dinner, and parents call too many shots around here.
It is OK with me that they want to protect their children... but it's NOT OK that they think I SHOULD feel the same. What is my crime? Did I kill somebody? Did I abuse somebody? WHY can't I have what I want because they want to protect THEIR children? "Violence!" I shout, and no one hears. The whole world, wherever people live together the injustice and bullsh*t majority throws murders the rights of few. Everytime I think about this injustice, I think I shall go insane.

I know lots of you feel the same way. We gotta make stand! We have to make mention of this injustice, to your friends in real life, over the forums, and over the voting poll! Let ourselves be heard. Talk to your local game shop owners. They may not respond as well, but we have to keep speaking and be heard.

They did. In the pre-patch version of the texture there were nipbles. The nipbles were blurry and ugly, but definitely there. And of course you couldn't see them in the vanilla game since they were covered by a bra. They patched it later and replaced the nipble texture with a barbie doll texture (no nipbles). To make sure 'the hackers' (that's what Bethesda called modders who made use of their nipble texture) can't use it anymore. Idiotic, but I guess that's how things work in the land of nipblegate.

EDIT: If you want proof either install v1.0 of Oblivion (and don't patch it obviously) and look at the upperbodyfemale.dds texture or look for the first 'nvde' mod on Nexus, there is a comparison screen showing the original upper body texture. If you have GOTY or if you install SI the first method might not work, not sure how the patching is handled in that case.

E for Everyone.

Because everybody on the planet needs to play this game.

Wha...? Trolling or....ehh...?

The ESRB is stupid and pointless IMO

Only people who use the ESRB (and other media rating systems) are probably like... psychotic mormons

OF COURSE this game will be rated M , I have not 1 shred of doubt about that

But how many kids will miss out on this great game simply because their parents are morons and won't let them play a rated M game? Tsk tsk , sad indeed. Hopefully not that many , not aware that there are even enough psycho-parents to merit the ESRBs existance but.... yeah...

Edit : Great point made by the guy who called out the hypocrisy of allowing bloody violence but not even nipbles

Sorry we use numbers in my country. But yeah I know M is like 18+ or something. A lot of blood and violence, in addition to the finishing moves, in addition to marriage. It's at least 16+ because of those things.