Ok so everything I've read about the 1.4 patch says you won't have any trouble getting back into the Thalmor Embassy to get the Stone if you missed it during the main storyline, but I've ran the patch on my PS3, it still says the Embassy is "locked", I did find one possible way around it through the Reeking Cave but I can't get it to work. So I'm at 23/24 with absolutely no hope of getting the 24th.

So am I just screwed with that subquest? Because I can't make a copy of the key through Wax Key (can't pick the lock) and none of the guards in the Barracks or roaming the embassy have a key.

in addition, there IS one place where you can actually get on top of the stone wall but the game won't "let" you drop straight down. For a game of "freedom of exploration", it's amazing an invisible wall like this would exist.

So...

- DID this get patched on the PS3?
- If not, I find it a very, very "poor" choice to tie a sidequest to a place you can only visit once. I'm not starting a game over after putting 48 hours into it for the sole purpose of completing an insignificant sidequest.
- If so, I can tell you on my game (slim PS3), it is NOT patched, you walk up to the door and it says "Requires Key".

Can anyone help?

thalmore embassy does this for me to and i left a stone in there as well and tried jumping over the wall funnily enough didnt know about the cave......whats that?
but unfortunatley i think you are screwed on this one i know i had problems to with the no stone unturned im on 21 of 24 and only have two places with a stone left one and unfortunately i dunno which one has dissapeared from the game world

The stone is no longer in the Embassy, but has been moved into the Reeking Cave. That's how it's accessible now. At least, that's what I've read. Haven't confirmed that firsthand.

Wow...unless I just totally missed it when I was there, that would definitely be "problem solved", TYVM!

To the other reply: The "Reeking Cave" is where you come out of during the main storyline when you "sneak into" the Thalmor Embassy (I believe it's the quest "Diplomatic Immunity" or something to that effect). You steal a key while you're there to unlock the trap door in the Thalmor Embassy dungeon, and that's where you come out.

It's not marked on your map...to find it again:
- Go up to where the entrance is to the Thalmor Embassy.
- Go to the SW corner of the Embassy's wall and go straight ahead, taking care going down the mountain; you'll come to one of the cobblestone roads
- Follow that road down a little ways, and keep looking on your right. It's a heck of a lot easier to do this during the daytime vs. night. Eventually you'll find it.

As long as they haven't placed it on the upper level, that would have just been mean.

I can confirm that, because I did this quest after the 1.4 patch was handed down. I searched the cave after killing the troll and found a dead necromancer in the corner of the cave with this gem stone next to him.

ahhhhh brilliant thank you not that itll help me picking that one up -.- not happy about the stone that dissapeard that and for some odd reason my quest log has decided to get rid of the no stone unturned quest compleatly bit wierd

Stuff vanishes and the log does what it want's hmmmm, you are probably not playing the game in exactly the correct order then.

AH! I see the flaw in our reasoning now, Skyrim isn't an open world sandbox RPG, that was a misprint on the packaging.

In actuality it's a massive stepping stone puzzle, if you can match the secret path hidden within the quest haystack you will get to play with minimal problems.
If you fail it's like stepping on a landmine - respawn time.

Lol that made me laugh yea I must have played it wrong why else would my game be doing wappy things
Iv given up on it now I can't start a new because it bores me can't get out of helgen without wanting to turn it off o don't find it replayable also Im sick of going around and having to play like I'm walking through a mine field and the only save im willing to play is having very odd bugs since 1.4

Glad I could give you a giggle MK

If I was Bethesda I would read that and begin to realise that I had completely dropped the ball when it came to Skyrim on the PS3.

TES games have inherently been about replayability using a new character / race / skillset and essentially enjoying a different aspect of the game world. If players are feeling this way about restarting then ask yourselves "Why is that?"

The fragility of the world to exploration and sandbox play seriously detracts from what the series is all about.

You would think that since they moved the "stone" to Reeking Cave, that at least they would have put a put a marker on the map, like the rest of the caves.

So true!! I finally broke down and bought a guide, and on my third character, I don't enter a cave/dungeon, if there is a quest involved, unless I have received the quest. I usually don't use guides, but it seems that is the only way to "play" this game without borking certain quests. This character is level 71, and so far, all quests have gone without a hitch. IMO, this is a terrible way to have to play any game, much less an open world RPG.

Another curious thing is that my save file is still well under 10 mb. Level 71 on my first two characters were around 15-16 mb.

BTW, I can also confirm, that the "stone" is in Reeking Cave. It would have been nice if they would have also included a map marker to Reeking Cave.

I'm still playing with the same character I had started with from the time I bought the game... I was smart enough to at least buy a guide before I started playing, only because I didn't want to miss anything on my first play-through. Imagine my surprise that book is huge, every time I start some new story line, I get a pain in the pit of my stomach, hoping I won't 'muck it up'

Prior to patch 1.4 my character/save file were are level 30-ish/nearing 10mb. After patch 1.4, I'm at level 51 and fluctuating between 11mb and 12mb depending on what I carry in my inventory.

I also have experienced the same issue with the 24th Stone. I did the immunity quest and did not remember if I went to the Solar to get the stone. I grabbed my book and went back through each location the stones were to be found. The only place I have not been able to revisit is the embassy. The door is locked and I cannot find a key. I found the reeking cave and there is no dead body to loot, it is just empty. I assumed the Embassy was locked to me because I kicked the Thalmor out of the Peace negotiation in Hrothgar. I just want to be able to get all those stones out of my "carry" inventory. Any more help not discussed above would be greatly appreciated.
Bonjoyle...

The stone is in Reeking cave since patch 1.4.

Well for me there is no stone in the embassy or in Reeking cave (running PS3 1.4). Any ideas?

You must have collected it, or missed it in the cave, it's been placed there by the patch.

No, I must not have. It is not in the bedroom and it is not in the cave. It is not in either place on my first run through of the Diplomatic Immmunity quest post patch 1.4. it is not in the cave if i revisit later. it is not in the bedroom if I use the whirlwind sprint glitch to get back into the embassy after completion of the quest. It is not there. I have the same number of stones pre and post completion of this quest so I have not picked it up 'mistakenly'.

Thank you for your input though.

My only suggestion at this point is to print out the list of locations here:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:No_Stone_Unturned

And go through them again, check mark where you go and don't find a stone, you must have already picked it up and not marked the count. I know I have done it before and I am only like 4 stones away from finishing this.

Thanks for this. Unfortunately I don't think it is going to help as I am 100% certain that I have not picked up the stone within the embassy or the Reeking cave. i know this as my latest save is with Delphine in the village prior to starting the Embassy party part of the Diplomatic Immunity quest and I have not visited the Reeking cave at all. The only thing I haven't tried is to go to the Reeking cave prior to the Embassy to see if the stone is there. I'll try this later today.

Otherwise one of the Wikis says

• When in combat, if you double tap/click the stone, you will receive one, but the quest will count it as two.

and therefore I may still be able to finish the Stones quest (maybe) as I have a few stones to go. There are also a couple of other glitches listed in the Wiki that might help me:

• Periodically, some stones apparently respawn at their initial place, such as the one in Jarl Elisif the Fair's quarters.
  
• Sometimes the quest log will count more stones than have actually been obtained. This allows for a premature completion of the quest, and any future stone(s) obtained can be dropped

Time will tell and if I have any luck I will report here just in case it helps anybody else.

Looks like if SOB quest bugs itself , for once it bugs in the players favour with extra stones allowing you to complete the quest AND drop any more you find.

A first I think.

Indeeds its not good i can go back to oblivion im currently enjoying fallout 3 (im waiting for the [censored] to hit the fan though and for me to give up on all bethesda games full stop)
and yes oblivion has its bugs but i can get past those even the massive one where you cannot cure vamparism on the GOTY edition or 5th annaversary edition due to shivering isles
but skyrims to much its stressfull to play its not enjoyable and now the amount of times theyve told us its better to restart due to a new patch has made me boardand fed up. Im never buying a game of theres again at release ill wait for it to be nice and cheap used, and skyrim was the only one of there games i ever got new and on release rest of them iv got used and cheap in the last 2 years thinking of getting new vegas now i can get it for 5 quid.


does it say anything about the damn things being eaten by the game world?

id be tempted to try this as i have two left in my game still to pick up despite needing 3 however i am staying well away from skyrim its soul svcking
instead im now playing fallout 3 (probably not a smart move looking at the state skyrim is in but so far so good just wish i wasnt turning every second creature into an ash pile)
which i bought used for 3 quid like 2 months ago and now only just getting into it so yea i dunno maybe in a couple of months time when DLC is out so theyve finnished the games patches then ill play skyrim again (sure as hell aint getting DLC though)

OK, I visited the Reeking cave prior to the Embassy but no luck, the stone was not there. So based on the double-clicking/tapping the stone glitch per the wiki as stated above I visited . I double tapped on the X button (PS3) when picking up the stone there and the quest did indeed acknowledge that I had obtained two further stones rather than one. Interestingly I was not in combat as the wiki states you should be for this to work.

So now the quest says I have 20 stones but I have 19 in my inventory. I will report here what happens in the closing stages of the quest.

YAY! I got all 24 Stones! I made a check list and went to every location twice and searched everywhere!

Well done!

I can't quite join you and say that I actually obtained 24 stones but I can say that I have now completed the quest with 23! All due to the double clicking/tapping glitch. Also as I stated before I can confirm that you do not need to be in combat for that glitch to work. Now for the crown....