(To start with let me say i do appreciate the genuine game bugs when questing or working with items or interacting with NPCs. This is in no way aimed at these things and i am in no way saying the game is perfect without any issues relating to in-game playing bugs that will occur for everyone who encounters it when they get to that stage in the game.)

:disguise: ATTENTION PEOPLE WITH MAJOR PROBLEMS!!! :vaultboy:

The game isn't broken... Fix your crappy computers... or upgrade... or do something better with your drivers or configuration.... Anything except crying and blaming the "game".

Honestly... im getting sick of seeing the SAME crying over the SAME issues and supposed problems and these SAME people blaming Bethesda... or Steam... or Obsidian...or anyone but THEMSELVES! :violin:

Im running a average $2000 machine, nothing special... and i have NOT HAD ONE SINGLE PROBLEM... Yes that's right... NOTHING has gone wrong...Even with Windows 7 64 bit.


... and guess what.. I'M even pushing my system TWICE as hard as most people with and Extra risk of something being screwy because i am running the game in FULL STEREOSCOPIC 3D with Nvidia 3D Vision...

That's right im running at 1680x1050 and making it push out double becuase of the 3D rendering having to work at 60fps x2 (Times two becuase it works at a genuine 60fps per eye for the 3D glasses) and i have NO problems... NO frame rate drop that i have seen noticeable or would make me gasp "Oh!, this is slow!"... and if i turn off the 3D its so freaking ultra smooth gorgeous ( AND yes, i have everything on the best and highest graphics settings) is it still just as fantastic.


What does this mean? I mean for me to be running this and having NO problems means hey... ITS NOT THE GAMES FAULT... Starting to get the picture yet? Has the penny (or casino chip) dropped yet?

NOT to mention the 40 pages of the same crying repeated over and over and over again BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT USE THE SEARCH FORUM BUTTON ON THE TOP RIGHT OF YOUR SCREEN!... No wonder none of you can get the game working when you are unable to grasp the simple concept of doing a search for a post that has a similar or exact same problem... YOU HAVE TO MAKE A NEW POST BECAUSE YOUR SO FREAKING SPECIAL! (And no when i say special i don't mean S.P.E.C.I.A.L..... oh and btw i chose 5,6,6,4,8,5,6 with the small frame trait for my gunslinger toon i'm playing)
You see we have over 40 pages of posts... and no where even close to 1229 problems (or 1228 if you don't want to count this topic since we here ant having any problems)

The thing that makes me have no pity for all the people complaining is when someone goes on about this being an "Unfinished and crappy release" that makes them feel they paid however many $$$ for a "Open Beta test game"....
HEY NEWS FLASH!... The Devs do no know every single computer hardware and software and driver configuration or mix'n'match... You cant predict every possible scenario of something going a little glitchy here and there.
When you release a game into the greater outside world, you are having THOUSANDS of different machines with THOUSANDS of different set ups and i wouldn't expect ANY game release of any decent sized game to be glitch or bug free.

So STOP thinking your the only one with a problem... stop blaming the Devs or the game programmers... stop demanding your money back (becuase hey, they game is fine and therefore you have no grounds to demand your money back UNLESS the disc itself is damaged)... stop over reacting.

Do search for a post with a similar or the exact same problem as yours... Do report that problem calmly and with dignity as best you can explain as much as you can... Do be patient and wait for there to be a fix and stop expecting them to rush something out just for you so you can play... Do go outside or visit a friend or play another game or do something else while this is fixed... Do write a hate-filled reply to this post Ive made... YOUR NOT GOING TO MISS OUT...The game will be there for you and patched and fixed and the Devs will get around your screwy computer set up eventually... Just be patient.

Alright, i've had that boiling inside me all day yesterday while i played after reading many many many threads and posts...So that's my 2 cents.



Im off now to play some of this fantastic game... MWAHAHHAHAHAHA! :fallout:
Yes yes... all you who cant play, Drown me in the waters of your sweet envy! :frog:


Roll on the internet hate machine!

.... End of rant. :swear:

Obsidian did mess up, there is no crossfire support. But otherwise they did a pretty good job.

First of all, congrats on being lucky enough to have zero issues. You are the EXCEPTION. I have a high end system myself, and the game was unplayable without the DX9 community fix. The game's engine also has obvious issues, such as stuttering for no real reason, not using all the system resources available, etc. And there are several "driver" related bugs (According to Obsidian), such as the random white flashes with HDR enabled on Nvidia cards. Considering that happens in only that game and in no others, I fail to see how that's Nvidia's fault.

However, I do agree that way too many people who have no idea what is even in their PC are complaining that the game is broken for them. It is actually their fault, or they're just having the same problem everyone else is yet are too lazy to read other threads.

Cool story bro. Another computer elitist blaming the majority of game owners suffering from the same problems with all different types of parts and operating systems.

^^ I'm with him. Also, OP your poll makes absolutely no sense. Have another Nuka Cola.

I find your post extremely insulting. I fail to understand why you even are posting in a "Hardware and Software Issues" forum if you don't have any.

If they didn't mess it up why would they release patches to fix it?

I can't even install the freaking game, and I have Vista with a GT240.

Stay off the jet and pull your head out of your a**

You assume "Patches" for games are becuase they "messed up"???

Really? Is this your logic?.... Did you not read the part i wrote about the whole THOUSANDS of systems with THOUSANDS of configurations?...

They release patches sometimes NOT becuase anyone messed up, but becuase people have weird and wonderful computer system setups and so sometimes things may need to have a few more lines of code written into files so that these different configurations of hardware and drivers are able to all happily communicate with each other. THUS fixing problems for these people.
Also patches are released for genuine in-game story or NPC issues that are in no way related to hardware or software... And also sometimes patches are released to take advantage of new technology as they are developed over time.

Here endeth the lesson.

meh, three dog just wanted to brag. whole point to his post, as for updates they're for hardware and software issues. beth like any company that sells games want to reach as many consumers as possible. so they'll patch every issue that a majority of players have. several i've experienced related to how the game was rushed or not play tested completely. (like boulders you can walk through, several clipping and stuck issues, broken quests, etc). tilde (~) and tcl has been my friend since i started playing.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Dear Mr. Troll,

Please find better flame than "Every game is beta tested" or "My rig is running it fine so everything must be ok" or "your an idiot because you are upset you paid for a game and didnt understand that most bugs are your own fault".

/points to your own poll
/scoreboard

So OP how do you explain everyone with there problems running Fallout 3 with absolutly no problems & nearly no fps drop? Yet in Fallout New Vegas top high end systems see 10 - 15 fps when near NPC's among other frame rate issue's within the game?

All I am going to say is, if you haft to adjust settings like AA or uncheck things in the settings to get a game to run even half decent on a system that should run the game in full settings flawlessly then im sorry to say but that is completey & utterly the developers fault. Fallout 3 & Fallout New Vegas runs on the gamebyro, fact of the matter is it doesnt matter what you adjust and or what your resoultion is with the game . . It will still run like a pile of crap.

Pile of crap = Not running at a constent 50 - 60 frames

Gamebyro = Pile of crap

Fallout 3 = pile of crap that was eventually fixed

Fallout New Vegas = currently a huge pile of crap

This thread = a pile of crap

My computer = very much far and beyond a pile of crap

But please continue your fan boyish no clue what the hell you are even talking about argument.

:clap:

/Looks as scoreboard

3 people think im a duck!... Awesome!

:clap:

(And if you think i spent the time and effort to write all that JUST to Troll?... then you have no idea... This is far, far from a Troll, and more of a hopeful "wake up call" for some of the people who are overreacting in 50+ identical threads over certain issues.) But i do appreciate and respect your opinion.

Are you for real?

Excellent troll, extremely elaborate. I give it 10/10\

edit: Actually 9/10. It was pretty easily identified because most people who are that asinine, illogical and just plain wrong normally don't take the time to type up an elaborate post on a video game forum. But still great. Hats off to you sir.

Three Dogs, troll or no troll.....

the quicksave and other save game bugs alone are as close to inexcusable as one can get, even for the initial weeks of "normal" beta testing most games go through.

Dear Mr. Developer,

Rule #1: Do not screw with save games.

Rule #2: See rule #1, because everything else is on some level forgivable.


I will acknowledge that people tend to overreact on any given subject. With the save game thing, its not an overreaction. People take thier free time very seriously. This is why you saw the Devs immediately react like they did with the first patch, and you can be certain they arestill working on it.

Ugh I hate trolls. Let this thread die or mod please lock it, this crap is ridiculous.

Stupidity really has reached a new level-

your a b***h. cuz i have a quad core, a gtx 480, 12 g ram in triple channel, two 7200 rpm hd's in raid0. whel i turn the specs on new vegas as lowwwww as they can possibly go, dissabling any special effects, it still stutters horrifically and even though it reads 60 fps, it looks like 5 - 15. just like it does when i max graphics out. so its OBSIOUSLY the developers fault. evil one.

So I guess because you aren't having any problems obviously everybody else's problems are non existent or self inflicted. Spoken like a true prat.

Why in the world would you invest in a 3D setup with such a low resolution monitor?

Well, i would explain it by saying that even though FO:NV uses the same engine, it is still essentially a new game with new and added features and different elements. I can not say for certain how much different things are or how deep into the game code they run, BUT i would say that is is fairly obvious there are differences if there is such a contrast between peoples performance in-game between FO:3 and FO:NV. (Just becuase it looks the same one the outside doesn't mean it IS the same on the inside is the point im trying to make.)

So how would YOU explain my average, year old system, running everything on ultra high, furthermost distances, AA on and everything good, and i'm having No problems? Please explain how this is some kind of "weird anomaly" or freak of nature occurrence?

Oh and i've not had one save-game bug or problem yet either and i use both normal and quick saves.(Not that i'm saying i won't, but so far not even a hint of a problem. Maybe my IRL Luck skill is 10?)

This is going anywhere productive.