Stop With All The Complaining!

Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:54 am

First off let me say I have as of yet not played more then 30 minutes of Crysis 2. I have a crossfire setup and I get flickering, the newest AMD Profiles fix the flickering but I've just been getting pretty poor performance on crossfire all round. Now I am hopeful that this 1.2 Update comes out soon and it solves that and a whole host of other problems but everyone whos raging out at Crytek and the fact its Sunday and theres no patch just be patient.

Everyone seems to have this idea that all games should be 100% on release, and about the only developer I know that consistently does this is Valve. And you'll never guess what peoples biggest complaints are about Valve, how come they take so damn long to make a game?
Now Crysis Warhead came out around Sept 2008, and assuming they started work on this immediately after that were talking 2.5 years, when Half Life 2 took 6 years and the 3 hour long 'Episodes' took 1.5 each! I love that Valve does this, the games are always incredible because they make sure everything is exactly how they want before release but you pay for it with much longer development times. On top of this Valve didn't have to create a completely new version of their engine that will run on PS3 and XBox 360 while building a singleplayer campaign in it, as well as providing a substantial multiplayer component.

When you get down to time frames like that its an expectation that either they keep the game for another 6 months to do 100% testing and then up the price of the game or they release it 95% working and get info from the other 5% to as quickly as possible fix bugs previously unseen. While technology can help speed up the creation of new games there is nothing that can change the time that testing takes, and if everyone wants their games on a yearly/bi yearly basis rather then 6 yearly then testing will suffer!

I see alot of people complaining that were now well past a week after release and the game is still buggy and hence Crytek have completely failed, but its just one week, the game is still there, the game isn't now useless, is there any piece of tech that works 100% when bought on day one? I have had many a problem with a just released graphics card, or a new technology that doesn't actually work til its 2nd or 3rd iteration, when you buy a product on day one that took half the time to produce as a similar product from a few years ago, then your almost guaranteed problems.
Take the new Intel 2nd Generation Core processor release, their supporting chipset for motherboards had a defunct SATA setup where in many cases the first two ports would either fail or severely reduce performance, this from the biggest name in computer processors!

So I guess the point i'm trying to make is, we all need to have a little patience, we'll eventually get to play the game and whether thats a week, 2 weeks or a month after it was released who cares, its gonna be just as fun as when we got it on release, the real problem is that everyone still has this expectation of being able to play a game 100% on release, you lose that and all of a sudden your happy to wait. I know Crytek will eventually fix these problems and I can't wait for that moment, but whether it takes a week, 2 or a month doesn't really bother me, if we were to buy it 2 weeks later, I would almost definitely spend the same, (34.99 for a EADM key) and we would be able to play it as soon as we got it home and all would be well. The only difference in what we've all done now is buy it 2 weeks early, which gives ourselves a high chance of playing it straight away with the acceptance that possibly might be a couple of weeks!

The 100s of posts telling Crytek how much they've failed or how late they are is just making it harder for them to find the important info. Get your bugs up here, get them the info they need and then wait for them to whip up a patch that will hopefully get all our Crysis 2 campaigns underway!

Im not defending Crytek specifically, I'm sure theres many things they could have done better still, whether its their fault or EA's or AMD/NVIDIAs who cares, it has been a rather rough release for Crysis 2, but you can either wait 6 years or you can get it in 2.5 years + 2-4 weeks, No matter how long it takes Crytek too fix all these bugs their still gonna get us a 100% game well before anyone could've 5-10 years ago. So sit tight, stop with the complaining that is helping NOTHING and have a celebratory cake on standby for when we finally get to dig our claws into Crysis 2!
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Karine laverre
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:54 pm

blah blah blah blah wall of text no one cares blah blah.


We have to right to complain about a complete broken game which seems complete out of Crytek's hands.


blah blah blah blah blah blah.
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Johanna Van Drunick
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:21 am

Let me give you a scenario.

You go to McDonalds and order a cheeseburger.

You can either wait 2 minutes and get a cheeseburger without any burger. Then you have to get back in line and wait another couple of minutes to get the burger. Or you could wait 6 minutes and get a complete cheeseburger.

Let me give you another one.

You go to the amusemant park and get in line for a ride. You finally get on this amazing roller coaster and it was fantastic. You come back a few years later and you see the same roller coaster, you think. When you get to the front of the line, you realize that the roller coaster is shorter, has less of everything that made it unique and amazing, and it's just not as fun. You ask why is was like this and you get told nothing. Only after awhile you start to ask around and find out that they cut back on the roller coaster so that all ages could ride it.
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Susan Elizabeth
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:46 pm

well i would rather wait another year to play Crysis 2 than playing it now, i dont care if crytek takes 11 years to finish a game all i care about is getting a FINISHED PRODUCT and not feel like they stole my money.
i am an indie game developers and i have been working on a 3D FPS for a year now and i would never ever release my product until it IS FINISHED
"a delayed product that is fun and FINISHED is better than a soon released product that will svck for ever". remember that its Valve

+1, I am totally with you. Except 1 year might be a bit too long. unless they just released the trailer that is
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Andrew
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:56 pm

You go to the amusemant park and get in line for a ride. You finally get on this amazing roller coaster and it was fantastic. You come back a few years later and you see the same roller coaster, you think. When you get to the front of the line, you realize that the roller coaster is shorter, has less of everything that made it unique and amazing, and it's just not as fun. You ask why is was like this and you get told nothing. Only after awhile you start to ask around and find out that they cut back on the roller coaster so that all ages could ride it.
In this anology, does the bugs translate into a high death rate I wonder?
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:41 pm

You go to the amusemant park and get in line for a ride. You finally get on this amazing roller coaster and it was fantastic. You come back a few years later and you see the same roller coaster, you think. When you get to the front of the line, you realize that the roller coaster is shorter, has less of everything that made it unique and amazing, and it's just not as fun. You ask why is was like this and you get told nothing. Only after awhile you start to ask around and find out that they cut back on the roller coaster so that all ages could ride it.
In this anology, does the bugs translate into a high death rate I wonder?

In this anology, the bugs translate in to a chance the roller coaster just doesn't make it to the end, and instead you had to just sit in the middle of a decline and incline, waiting for someone to fix the ride.
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Ross Thomas
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:48 am

How about I talk **** to you, then 'borrow' your money without asking and say I'll pay some day.

You don't tell your family and friends not to trust me? You don't express your discontent about me deceiving you and possibly stealing your money? Fine. Don't expect people act like this in general though.

Yeah, companies should not take responsibility about deliberately pissing off customers. We should keep quiet so even more people can get ripped off. Good idea dude!
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:48 am

You've played 30 Min's and your convinced theres nothing to complain about... wow

See i just spent 30 Min's killing dudes only to get killed and not be able to quick load.... oh and i tripped a checkpoint so have to go back to the main menu and load again from a random unmarked one in the list.

HELL YES I'm gonna complain about that, its retarded.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:07 pm

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Kelly John
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:17 am

You have the right to voice your opinions in a civilized manor. Everyone posting issues is posting them full of emotion and annoyance at crytek for not saying anything. But if your not going to act like you want help or in a way that is beneficial by adding possible causes or ideas then why should they respond to you. You have to give in order to receive. Now start giving them good bug reports and keep the overwhelming emotion to a minimum.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:04 pm

anologies... the new COOL way to show you arent winning any hearts or minds on the interwebz LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!1!!!1!!!1!!!!!!11!1!111
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Juanita Hernandez
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:58 pm

We don't need any anologies to see that Crytek **** up big time with this game.
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Mario Alcantar
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:27 am

they might have... to be honest, I havent touched online yet.... so I dont know (none of the SP bugs Ive found are game killers... none)
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:01 pm

Let me give you a scenario.

You go to McDonalds...

..And you become a fatass whinny american.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:28 pm

DING FRIES ARE DONE!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFQyib5ZQZY
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Chavala
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 11:57 am

First off let me say I have as of yet not played more then 30 minutes of Crysis 2. I have a crossfire setup and I get flickering, the newest AMD Profiles fix the flickering but I've just been getting pretty poor performance on crossfire all round. Now I am hopeful that this 1.2 Update comes out soon and it solves that and a whole host of other problems but everyone whos raging out at Crytek and the fact its Sunday and theres no patch just be patient.

Everyone seems to have this idea that all games should be 100% on release, and about the only developer I know that consistently does this is Valve. And you'll never guess what peoples biggest complaints are about Valve, how come they take so damn long to make a game?
Now Crysis Warhead came out around Sept 2008, and assuming they started work on this immediately after that were talking 2.5 years, when Half Life 2 took 6 years and the 3 hour long 'Episodes' took 1.5 each! I love that Valve does this, the games are always incredible because they make sure everything is exactly how they want before release but you pay for it with much longer development times. On top of this Valve didn't have to create a completely new version of their engine that will run on PS3 and XBox 360 while building a singleplayer campaign in it, as well as providing a substantial multiplayer component.

When you get down to time frames like that its an expectation that either they keep the game for another 6 months to do 100% testing and then up the price of the game or they release it 95% working and get info from the other 5% to as quickly as possible fix bugs previously unseen. While technology can help speed up the creation of new games there is nothing that can change the time that testing takes, and if everyone wants their games on a yearly/bi yearly basis rather then 6 yearly then testing will suffer!

I see alot of people complaining that were now well past a week after release and the game is still buggy and hence Crytek have completely failed, but its just one week, the game is still there, the game isn't now useless, is there any piece of tech that works 100% when bought on day one? I have had many a problem with a just released graphics card, or a new technology that doesn't actually work til its 2nd or 3rd iteration, when you buy a product on day one that took half the time to produce as a similar product from a few years ago, then your almost guaranteed problems.
Take the new Intel 2nd Generation Core processor release, their supporting chipset for motherboards had a defunct SATA setup where in many cases the first two ports would either fail or severely reduce performance, this from the biggest name in computer processors!

So I guess the point i'm trying to make is, we all need to have a little patience, we'll eventually get to play the game and whether thats a week, 2 weeks or a month after it was released who cares, its gonna be just as fun as when we got it on release, the real problem is that everyone still has this expectation of being able to play a game 100% on release, you lose that and all of a sudden your happy to wait. I know Crytek will eventually fix these problems and I can't wait for that moment, but whether it takes a week, 2 or a month doesn't really bother me, if we were to buy it 2 weeks later, I would almost definitely spend the same, (34.99 for a EADM key) and we would be able to play it as soon as we got it home and all would be well. The only difference in what we've all done now is buy it 2 weeks early, which gives ourselves a high chance of playing it straight away with the acceptance that possibly might be a couple of weeks!

The 100s of posts telling Crytek how much they've failed or how late they are is just making it harder for them to find the important info. Get your bugs up here, get them the info they need and then wait for them to whip up a patch that will hopefully get all our Crysis 2 campaigns underway!

Im not defending Crytek specifically, I'm sure theres many things they could have done better still, whether its their fault or EA's or AMD/NVIDIAs who cares, it has been a rather rough release for Crysis 2, but you can either wait 6 years or you can get it in 2.5 years + 2-4 weeks, No matter how long it takes Crytek too fix all these bugs their still gonna get us a 100% game well before anyone could've 5-10 years ago. So sit tight, stop with the complaining that is helping NOTHING and have a celebratory cake on standby for when we finally get to dig our claws into Crysis 2!

Stop complaining? STFU. Are you people that **** retarded that you think the garbage that is crysis 2 is ok for crytek to release and us pay 60 **** bucks for? Oh its not complete? Its not ready at release? THEN WHY AM I PAYING 60 BUCKS? you better believe im going to complain when a game isnt ready at release. This is borderline horrendous. Hacker in every server, constant drops from games, stats not updating, losing points/rank. Sure games arnt always ready at release, but guess what, thats no excuse. A developer cant say "oh the games not ready because no game is ever ready at release!". Thats not valid. The games not done therefore people have a right to bich about paying for an incomplete game.

Dx11? crytek says soon. sandbox? crytek says we will have it. patch? crytek said this week fixing multiple bugs but we dont have it. **** THAT. They have been so hush hush about everything that they have promised us. The least they can do, when releasing a **** incomplete game, is to tell us what is being done and when we can expect features we were PROMISED.

**** off. Seriously. People like you are a joke. You sit back and happily take it in the ass as a customer and try to tell others to take it in the ass too? **** that. Are you retarded? So many reasons why this game fails, and if a company were to pull this **** in another industry (not the games industry) you better believe people would be livid about it. (except for **** like you who seem to be ok with taking it in the ass).
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 9:36 am

but! but!
They already upped the price of the game, why don't we have something finished?

Way too much advertising, not enough developpement.
I'm sure they had to sell copies to keep working on it.
Money, you know...
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Zach Hunter
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:15 pm

I can be very patient. I wait for Duke Nukem forever since 2000 and I had a lot of pleasure when I could play DOOM 3 after 10 years of waiting and it's the same feeling in waiting for DOOM 4 too... I can wait for Mass Effect 3 even more... I need quality of a service or of a product, before everything. When you pay a lot of money and you are dissapointed, the EA should take into account a partial refund for your dissapointment. Anyway I'll be very carefull with all EA games in the future and wait for a month or two before buying a so long expected game like crysis 2.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:01 am

Lol what a tart,
The made us pay to test a bloody Beta game, and to top that you cant even play.
I hope you buy a car one day, that is simple NOT finished, lets see how fast you gonne complain about that.
Everbody on this forum, understands the differents between a game that has slightly bugs and wil be fixed and a complete broken game that fails on every side! Not to mention that the game is a cheap give away or a indie.... If you pay you need to GET something worth it. Not this pile of code, that cant even get passed a loging screen!
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Erika Ellsworth
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:05 pm

You've got to be kidding?

I've had the game for coming up 2 weeks, and haven't been able to play MP at all.

http://www.gamesas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=10954&start=1090
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stacy hamilton
 
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:34 pm

We're complaining becuase every single bug we're experienced has already been patched in the console version. JUSTICE SHALL BE DONE
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:17 am

First off let me say I have as of yet not played more then 30 minutes of Crysis 2. I have a crossfire setup and I get flickering, the newest AMD Profiles fix the flickering but I've just been getting pretty poor performance on crossfire all round. Now I am hopeful that this 1.2 Update comes out soon and it solves that and a whole host of other problems but everyone whos raging out at Crytek and the fact its Sunday and theres no patch just be patient.

Everyone seems to have this idea that all games should be 100% on release, and about the only developer I know that consistently does this is Valve. And you'll never guess what peoples biggest complaints are about Valve, how come they take so damn long to make a game?
Now Crysis Warhead came out around Sept 2008, and assuming they started work on this immediately after that were talking 2.5 years, when Half Life 2 took 6 years and the 3 hour long 'Episodes' took 1.5 each! I love that Valve does this, the games are always incredible because they make sure everything is exactly how they want before release but you pay for it with much longer development times. On top of this Valve didn't have to create a completely new version of their engine that will run on PS3 and XBox 360 while building a singleplayer campaign in it, as well as providing a substantial multiplayer component.

When you get down to time frames like that its an expectation that either they keep the game for another 6 months to do 100% testing and then up the price of the game or they release it 95% working and get info from the other 5% to as quickly as possible fix bugs previously unseen. While technology can help speed up the creation of new games there is nothing that can change the time that testing takes, and if everyone wants their games on a yearly/bi yearly basis rather then 6 yearly then testing will suffer!

I see alot of people complaining that were now well past a week after release and the game is still buggy and hence Crytek have completely failed, but its just one week, the game is still there, the game isn't now useless, is there any piece of tech that works 100% when bought on day one? I have had many a problem with a just released graphics card, or a new technology that doesn't actually work til its 2nd or 3rd iteration, when you buy a product on day one that took half the time to produce as a similar product from a few years ago, then your almost guaranteed problems.
Take the new Intel 2nd Generation Core processor release, their supporting chipset for motherboards had a defunct SATA setup where in many cases the first two ports would either fail or severely reduce performance, this from the biggest name in computer processors!

So I guess the point i'm trying to make is, we all need to have a little patience, we'll eventually get to play the game and whether thats a week, 2 weeks or a month after it was released who cares, its gonna be just as fun as when we got it on release, the real problem is that everyone still has this expectation of being able to play a game 100% on release, you lose that and all of a sudden your happy to wait. I know Crytek will eventually fix these problems and I can't wait for that moment, but whether it takes a week, 2 or a month doesn't really bother me, if we were to buy it 2 weeks later, I would almost definitely spend the same, (34.99 for a EADM key) and we would be able to play it as soon as we got it home and all would be well. The only difference in what we've all done now is buy it 2 weeks early, which gives ourselves a high chance of playing it straight away with the acceptance that possibly might be a couple of weeks!

The 100s of posts telling Crytek how much they've failed or how late they are is just making it harder for them to find the important info. Get your bugs up here, get them the info they need and then wait for them to whip up a patch that will hopefully get all our Crysis 2 campaigns underway!

Im not defending Crytek specifically, I'm sure theres many things they could have done better still, whether its their fault or EA's or AMD/NVIDIAs who cares, it has been a rather rough release for Crysis 2, but you can either wait 6 years or you can get it in 2.5 years + 2-4 weeks, No matter how long it takes Crytek too fix all these bugs their still gonna get us a 100% game well before anyone could've 5-10 years ago. So sit tight, stop with the complaining that is helping NOTHING and have a celebratory cake on standby for when we finally get to dig our claws into Crysis 2!

Didnt even read your "Narc" post. STFU ok? Now.

I hate people like you.

"Oh I don't experience these issues, and love Crytek so they must not be happening"

Get this through your simple head, I am not going to say it again.

This game is a **** beta, it did NOT deserve to be released in it's state. Works fine for you? Great, **** off then and leave us alone. We are trying to get a decent product out of the hard earned money we put down on this trash.
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Post » Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:23 am

NEVER SURRENDER!

fcuk yeah I will complain, Ive got £34.99 worth of complaining to do dikeface.
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