Stormcloak is canon?

Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:54 pm

I've been playing around with my thoughts on who to join in the rebellion. Then it struck me, the Talisman of Talos, gives 20 % decrease in shout timer. So, canon for me, as a dragonborn who uses shouts, the rebellion must be canon.

Anyone else given this some thought and come to the same or another conclusion? Is there some fluff somewhere I missed and I'm completely wrong? All coincidence?
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Euan
 
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:01 am

Far as we know there is no canon
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:32 am

doubt it, really.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:12 pm

I've been playing around with my thoughts on who to join in the rebellion. Then it struck me, the Talisman of Talos, gives 20 % decrease in shout timer. So, canon for me, as a dragonborn who uses shouts, the rebellion must be canon.

Anyone else given this some thought and come to the same or another conclusion? Is there some fluff somewhere I missed and I'm completely wrong? All coincidence?


I don't understand your logic. At all. Can you please explain this better?
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Janeth Valenzuela Castelo
 
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:44 am

What the [censored] is a canon?
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:48 pm

Well, the Imperials outlawed Talos worship. The rebellion supports it. I start as a dragonborn. Dragonborn uses shouts. Talisman of Talos benefits shouts. So, in my book, as a dragonborn, it makes supporting the rebellion canon. Just my thoughts on the subject anyhow.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:14 pm

Except Legate Rikke, for instance, worships Talos. Jarl Elisif the Fair worships Talos. General Tullius was opposed to banning the worship of Talos. Effectively, the Imperials are just playing nicey-nice while they prepare for round two. As Alvor in Riverwood says, everyone had their own little Talos shrine and no one care - until Ulfric made a thing about it. So yeah, nah, doubt it.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 2:35 am

Talos worship is only outlawed because of the Thalmor, not so much the Imperials, the way I see it the world is falling apart and we need a new "Talos" To Conquer everything and restore order to Tamriel, so to me canon is joining the Imperials, stomping out Ulfric and calming down the Rebellion before organizing against the Thalmor with Skyrim at your side and using your power to crush the arrogant elves once and for all.

Besides, siding with the Stormcloaks essentially dooms Skyrim by killing off their only safety net against the very same Thalmor that the entire Empire couldn't even overpower.
I thought it was Common Knowledge that the Imperials are the ones keeping Skyrim Alive while holding off the Thalmor? I mean most locals don't even like the Stormcloaks or even Ulfric.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:42 am

Talos worship is only outlawed because of the Thalmor, not so much the Imperials, the way I see it the world is falling apart and we need a new "Talos" To Conquer everything and restore order to Tamriel, so to me canon is joining the Imperials, stomping out Ulfric and calming down the Rebellion before organizing against the Thalmor with Skyrim at your side and using your power to crush the arrogant elves once and for all.

Besides, siding with the Stormcloaks essentially dooms Skyrim by killing off their only safety net against the Thalmor that the Empire can't even overpower.



This.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:14 am

What the [censored] is a canon?

Canon is a fancy way of saying "According to lore..."
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:22 pm

Please stop using the word canon, its out of context in your line, and you are confusing people, just say "its the right path" or " the path the game meant to be" .
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:13 am

Canon wouldn't be established until the next game comes out or they pay some guy to write a book.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:06 am

Please stop using the word canon, its out of context in your line, and you are confusing people, just say "its the right path" or " the path the game meant to be" .


How is it out of context?
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:52 am

Canon wouldn't be established until the next game comes out or they pay some guy to write a book.


I think the point of this Thread is to try and figure out which side is more likely to be the canon lore in the next game.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 7:46 am

I think the point of this Thread is to try and figure out which side is more likely to be the canon lore in the next game.


Aye indeed. But as was said, perhaps there isn't any and the politics of the north won't be of a concern and will not even be mentioned...
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:55 am

Aye indeed. But as was said, perhaps there isn't any and the politics of the north won't be of a concern and will not even be mentioned...


They've kind of dodged this stuff in the past.

Daggerfall: EVERYTHING HAPPENED
Morrowind: VVARDENFEL EXPLODED
Oblivion: ...well, you didn't really have choices, so.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:22 pm

Aye indeed. But as was said, perhaps there isn't any and the politics of the north won't be of a concern and will not even be mentioned...


I think it's a big deal, especially if Bethesda decide to have the Dragonborn walk in Tiber/Talos's footsteps to regain peace in Tamriel, the Dragonborn's potential is incredible right now in this Era that he has appeared.
Chances are if you end up becoming Emperor, you'll take on a new Lore Friendly name like Talos did, and the next game would be a few generations into the future.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:36 pm

That doesn't make sense. I would guess the Warp in the North would happen around now.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:17 pm

What the [censored] is a canon?


A pre-modern siege weapon usually consisting of gunpowder and a round metal ball :)

But in all seriousness, they'd just say "Thalmor took over everything THE END" or..."EMPIRE AND STORMCLOAKS ARE STILL HAVING CIVIL WAR!!"
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:38 am

As fo yet tehy haven't declared which happened. And I hope tehy don't pull a "warp in the north". Its not fitting.

Though I have my own theories as to how tehy are going to handle the whole Great War, Thalmor, Civil War situation.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:44 am

Except Legate Rikke, for instance, worships Talos. Jarl Elisif the Fair worships Talos. General Tullius was opposed to banning the worship of Talos. Effectively, the Imperials are just playing nicey-nice while they prepare for round two. As Alvor in Riverwood says, everyone had their own little Talos shrine and no one care - until Ulfric made a thing about it. So yeah, nah, doubt it.


This. The issue of Talos worship is merely a pretext Ulfric used to rally the common people to his side. Ultimately, overthrowing Imperial rule and claiming the throne of Skyrim for himself are his real motivations. Have you listened to the man rant? According to Ulfric Stormcloak, Skyrim belongs to the glorious Nord master race and no one else.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:05 am

As fo yet tehy haven't declared which happened. And I hope tehy don't pull a "warp in the north". Its not fitting.

Though I have my own theories as to how tehy are going to handle the whole Great War, Thalmor, Civil War situation.


By all means, share it :D
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:00 pm

Talos worship is only outlawed because of the Thalmor, not so much the Imperials, the way I see it the world is falling apart and we need a new "Talos" To Conquer everything and restore order to Tamriel, so to me canon is joining the Imperials, stomping out Ulfric and calming down the Rebellion before organizing against the Thalmor with Skyrim at your side and using your power to crush the arrogant elves once and for all.

Besides, siding with the Stormcloaks essentially dooms Skyrim by killing off their only safety net against the very same Thalmor that the entire Empire couldn't even overpower.
I thought it was Common Knowledge that the Imperials are the ones keeping Skyrim Alive while holding off the Thalmor? I mean most locals don't even like the Stormcloaks or even Ulfric.

Actually, the Dragonborn himself completely screws over any plans the Thalmor may have had to conquer the world:

If the Dhovakiin sides with the Empire, the dominion finds itself against the full might of the Empire, fully backed by Talos-made-mainifest.

If the Dhovakiin sides with the Stormcloaks, then the Dominion has to fight against a united Skyrim on the victory rush of defeating the Empire (Giving them something similar to what Tiber Septim's Empire experienced in it's quest to conquer Hammerfell once Cyrus kicked the Empire's ass at the Second Battle of Stros M'Kai), led by Ulfric Stormcloak and the incarnation of Talos - who may go on and conquer all of Tamriel again.

Either way, the elves are [censored] badly.

In fact, I say Skyrim's canon will be: It doesn't matter which faction the Dhovakiin sided with: He ends up re-uniting ALL the provinces again in forming a new empire - either by reviving the old one, or forging a new one from its grave in Skyrim: While Cyrodiil may be the "Heart" of the Empire, Skyrim's its spine.
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Post » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:48 am

Actually, the Dragonborn himself completely screws over any plans the Thalmor may have had to conquer the world:

If the Dhovakiin sides with the Empire, the dominion finds itself against the full might of the Empire, fully backed by Talos-made-mainifest.

If the Dhovakiin sides with the Stormcloaks, then the Dominion has to fight against a united Skyrim on the victory rush of defeating the Empire (Giving them something similar to what Tiber Septim's Empire experienced in it's quest to conquer Hammerfell once Cyrus kicked the Empire's ass at the Second Battle of Stros M'Kai), led by Ulfric Stormcloak and the incarnation of Talos - who may go on and conquer all of Tamriel again.

Either way, the elves are [censored] badly.

In fact, I say Skyrim's canon will be: It doesn't matter which faction the Dhovakiin sided with: He ends up re-uniting ALL the provinces again in forming a new empire - either by reviving the old one, or forging a new one from its grave in Skyrim: While Cyrodiil may be the "Heart" of the Empire, Skyrim's its spine.



this, i am that weird guy right now clapping in a public area. Me personally, i agree that its basically who the DRAGONBORN sides with that the Thalmor are gonna get there butt whupped by. Impire in the past may have came to a "draw" with the thalmor but with the Dragonborn behind it, the Empires got its ace up its sleeve. If Uldric does it...well its no secret that the Thalmor has had a problem winning against the Nord nation in the past because lets face it even the Nord children are badass, telling me the dragonborn with the blodd of the dragon i singlehandedly killed still on me that " I dontknow what the big deal is, u dotn scare me"....Nord nation equals men/women/chrildren with HUGE balls and dont mind swinging them at the enemy

drunken speach is over, carry on.
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Post » Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:40 pm

OP is desperately grasping at straws to justify joining the rebellion. Just do it and regret it later like nearly everyone else who joins them does in the end.
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