original thread


http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1450114-stormcloak-imperial-or-thalmor/






We have no idea the resources or manpower of both sides, but can assume that the Empire at this time is severely undermanned and supplied. If anything the look of their armor shows their current situation. I laugh when Stormcloak Soldiers say, "Legion armor gleams against...: whenmost legion soldiers wear leather armor. Considering how the majority of their forces are reduced to this subparr armor compared to the armor of previous games, it can be seen at this point that the legion is a ragtag force.

Just look at what is apparently happening in cyrodill right now, bandits are running about. With all those bandits about, can they really commit to skyrim?

Continuing this again? Like I said, neither side is heavily supported, so neither side can claim a disadvantage. And that's all I have to say on that front.





Unrelated
Shameless repost for the record:

My reasons for joining the Stormcloaks are:

1. Being under Imperial influence has made them a shadow of what Skyrim once was, by their cultural influence and by relying on the Empire for military might.

2. Mede backed down too easy. After the war was ended in a stalemate, he should not have accepted the elves first offer for peace. At the very least, he could have called for a new treaty after he saw how the Thalmor failed in Hammerfell.

3. Ulfric is nothing like what the Imperial supporters including Balgruuf say he is. His cause is also a noble one, and from speaking to him personally, I see no evidence of a man hungry for the throne for the sake of power itself. I see a man who wants power to do what he thinks is right for his nation.

4. Ulfric seems like the leader Skyrim needs to make it strong again.

5. A stormcloak victory is every bit as viable as an Imperial one. I know this from the evidence the developers gave us through the dossier.

6. Trade will not stop after a Stormcloak victory between Skyrim and the Empire. It is too important for both nations, and our own history shows that nations who recently fought still trade afterwards if it is truly important for their country's survival. My motto is When it comes to countries, "Survival trumps grudges". Every time.

7. The Empire would have you believe that the Thalmor would invade Skyrim successfully without them, but if you study the map of Tamriel and look at its borders, natural borders, and know anything about invasions, you'd see that it is not possible unless the Thalmor take over the Empire first, which considering how strategic it is to have the Empire in front of Skyrim, no country would let that happen no matter how big the grudge is. Nords have fought alongside Dark Elves in history before, and much more blood was spread between them. There's no reason to believe that Skyrim wouldn't help the Empire when that endangers them as well.

8. As previously stated, an invasion from the Dominion just can't work on Skyrim. There's no nearby safe port for a naval invasion, which is essential. No invasion in real life history ever suceeded without a nearby safe port to receive supplies and reinforcements. And a land invasion wont work with the Empire in the way.

9. The Empire has shown through Hammerfell's treatment that they don't care about their people, and that their provinces are expendable.

10. The Empire's spirit is broken, and they are merely a shadow of what they once were. The last gasping breath of a dying man. When they crumble, I don't want Skyrim to be under them, because when they do fall, chaos will break out, and that will only hurt Skyrim if they are still heavily reliant on them.

Oh, and those idiots tried to cut off my head with no reason or proof of me being a Stormcloak.

Stormcloak
Same reasons as Colonel. And then some.

I love how we're calling this #2.

Are you allowed to quote locked threads, because I had one last question I wanted the Colonel to answer. I guess he could go find it, but I'd like to be convenient.

What question?

Let me find it.

On the last page of the last thread, I quoted you, you were saying how you said lolwut to General Tullius. My question is under that quote. I'll try to go get it for you if you'd like.

By the way, the second part of my post has so much speculation that you can ignore it ( the part about it being a best general win thing).

The thing is would Ulfric have become the High King?
Not every Jarl likes him that is evident and even the ones on his side would probably have ambitions of their own in a moot which is not predecided.

You mean basically did Ulfric need this war to gain experience to fight the Thalmor? Interesting question. In defense of Skyrim, not really as it defends itself, but an invasion with whatever allies? Yes.