I spent about two days grabbing a variety of mods. I just booted up the game for the first time since I initially tested MGE to find a rather annoying bug. It causes dialogue menus for NPCs near me to pop up at random. I have no idea what is doing this. The only thing I didn't do was merge dialogue lists, but I don't think this would cause a problem.

Can anyone identify this bug and tell me what mods are causing it?



Also, could someone help me create a better load order...the amount of mods I have has made creating one difficult.







Plugin1=Morrowind.esm
Plugin2=Tribunal.esm
Plugin3=Bloodmoon.esm
Plugin4=Morrowind Patch v1.6.5-BETA.esm
Plugin5=Texture Fix 1.8.esm
Plugin6=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
Plugin7=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
Plugin8=Better Heads.esm
Plugin9=MW_Children_1_0.esm
Plugin10=TR_Data.esm
Plugin11=TR_Map1.esm
Plugin12=TR_Map2.esm
Plugin13=MCA.esm
Plugin14=MWE_Base.esp
Plugin15=NOM 3.0.esp
Plugin16=Better Bodies.esp
Plugin17=New Argonian Bodies - Clean.esp
Plugin18=New Khajiit Bodies - Clean.esp
Plugin19=Better Heads.esp
Plugin20=Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esp
Plugin21=Better Heads Tribunal addon.esp
Plugin22=Dodge Mod 1.2-WD (Enhanced-LD) (Tribunal).esp
Plugin23=Clean Chargen_Revamped_v2_3.esp
Plugin24=DIYJK Mod.esp
Plugin25=MWE_Journal.esp
Plugin26=Nymeria's Faster Walk.esp
Plugin27=Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp
Plugin28=DynamicMagickaRegeneration-2.1-Tribunal.esp
Plugin29=LCV Schedule Markers.esp
Plugin30=NPC LCV Schedules 03.esp
Plugin31=Lgnpc_SN.esp
Plugin32=LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp
Plugin33=NPC LCV Locks.esp
Plugin34=TRIB_witchgirladvent1.esp
Plugin35=Great House Dagoth.esp
Plugin36=EcoAdj Ingredients.esp
Plugin37=EcoAdj(Sri+Ingredients).esp
Plugin38=Scripted_Spells.esp
Plugin39=EcoAdjDaedricDrops.esp
Plugin40=Great House Dagoth ( Master Index Compatibility ).esp
Plugin41=Great House Dagoth ( dv Master Index Compatibility ).esp
Plugin42=abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
Plugin43=k_weather.esp
Plugin44=EcoAdjMerchantSkills.esp
Plugin45=EcoAdjMisc.esp
Plugin46=EcoAdjCrime.esp
Plugin47=k_weather (louder sounds).esp
Plugin48=k_in_tent.esp
Plugin49=CM_Partners_3.0.esp
Plugin50=CM_Partners_3.0_Child_Upgrade.esp
Plugin51=CM_Partners_3.0_Guards_Upgrade.esp
Plugin52=IceNioLivRobeReplacerMW.esp
Plugin53=IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
Plugin54=IceNioLivRobeReplacerTB.esp
Plugin55=IceNioLivRobeReplacerBM.esp
Plugin56=IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp
Plugin57=KS_Julan_Ashlander Companion_1.3.esp
Plugin58=LGNPC_SecretMasters_MCA5.esp
Plugin59=LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
Plugin60=LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
Plugin61=Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
Plugin62=LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
Plugin63=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
Plugin64=LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
Plugin65=LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_20.esp
Plugin66=LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_30.esp
Plugin67=LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp
Plugin68=LGNPC_Khuul_v2_20.esp
Plugin69=LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp
Plugin70=LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
Plugin71=LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
Plugin72=LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp
Plugin73=LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
Plugin74=LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
Plugin75=NASA.esp
Plugin76=EcoAdjMerchantSkills (Disposition Edit).esp
Plugin77=EcoAdjCrime (Tresspass Edit).esp
Plugin78=Morrowind Code Patch Showcase.esp
Plugin79=NoM_CoM Compatibility Patch.esp
Plugin80=MCA - COV Addon.esp
Plugin81=MCA - Vampire Realism Patch.esp
Plugin82=Merged_Objects.esp
Plugin83=Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp

Use MLOX to sort the load order - also, I'd suggest getting rid of that Merged_Leveled_Lists.esp and use Wyre Mash's Mashed lists instead.

>The only thing I didn't do was merge dialogue lists

I think that's a good thing; there is no tool AFAIK that can merge dialogue safely.

BTW I think MWE is considered prone to crashing and is generally shunned.

I already have a very lite load order program, if MLOX adds something more then simply rearranging the order, then I'll look into it. As for the Wyre Mash, I was using TESTools for this, but i'll try out Wyre Mash's function instead to see if that fixes my problem.

I still need some advice on how to organize my plugin load order though (Like what needs to be higher on the list and what should be loaded later.)






Hmm, good to know about dialogue lists...they only seem to cuase problems for me.

Only reason I have Morrowind Enhanced is because of two journal script mods I use, one that removes all journal entries, and another that lets me add my own journal entries. These are really awesome. If I could use a mod like those without MWE, then I'd gladly ditch it's use.

Plugin52=IceNioLivRobeReplacerMW.esp
Plugin53=IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
Plugin54=IceNioLivRobeReplacerTB.esp
Plugin55=IceNioLivRobeReplacerBM.esp
Plugin56=IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp

You should only chose one esp from IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp and IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp.See the readme,sometimes the modder writes the loadorder or confilct.

Alright, I've followed everyone's wonderful advice thus far...


I used MLOX to get me a nice little load order going...

Wyre Mash created a Mashed_List for me and I deleted my old leveled lists from TESTools...

and I fixed the fact I was using multiple robe replacer plugins...

and yet when I go to start up the game, the problem with NPC dialogue boxes starting up at random is still there! Does anyone have any other troubleshooting tips I can follow to nail down this annoying bug!?

By "popping up at random" you mean that whenever you get near to a NPC, dialogue starts?

you have got past the tutorial, where loads of dialogue boxes pop up on their own anyway, haven't you?

There has to be NPCs around, but the ones that pop up are not necessarily near me, it feels to be completely at random. Sometimes I could go 30 seconds without something popping up...or it could just be 5 seconds between each time it pops.



Nope, I'm using an alternate beginnings mod, if you must know where I've started, its been Ebonheart.

Wow, I just broke this case wide open. I've noticed something...whenever a random NPC dialogue box pops up, its always preluded by a NPC making a idle noise, in this case, snorting with their nose. Every time without fail, that noise happens, then instantly the NPC dialogue box pops up!

How in the world can this be?!

Actually, it appears to be ANY idle NPC sound file, its just the snort/sniff of an imperial is most common. Go figure!