Strange Debugging Messages : IV

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:56 pm

When I open and close containers I read in the console strange debug messages.
What causes this?

(the prefix is kSSB)

http://i45.tinypic.com/33utmvt.jpg is a screenshot

Thanks in advance

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:20 am

It looks like you have the debug setting enabled in an INI. I do not recognize that prefix. Could you http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/index.php?page=know_how_to#PostYourLoadOrderr, please?

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:33 pm

KSSB is probably the mod initials. Do you have any mod named with initials KSSB?

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 6:07 am

Here's my load order

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  GTAesgaard_2.esm02  Jog_X_Mod.esm03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  Open Cities Resources.esm  [Version 3.3.2]0C  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0D  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0E  CM Partners.esm0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.6]10  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]11  DLCShiveringIsles.esp12  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]++  LoadingScreens.esp13  LoadingScreensAddOn.esp14  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp15  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]16  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]17  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  Symphony of Violence.esp18  MIS Low Wind.esp19  Rainbows.esp1A  WindowLightingSystem.esp1B  AliveWaters.esp1C  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp1D  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp1E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]1F  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2]20  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp21  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.5.1]22  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.5]23  Book Jackets DLC.esp24  SentientWeapon.esp  [Version 3]25  Thieves Arsenal.esp++  Thieves_Arsenal_Patch_033010.esp26  kuerteeHorseCommands.esp27  ExnemRuneskulls.esp28  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]29  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]2A  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]2B  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp2C  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]2D  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.32.Final]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]2E  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]2F  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Rats.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Swarms.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - NoReaversInGates.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Spawn Rates - Reduced.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]35  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]36  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions4MMM.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]37  LoadingScreens-OOO.esp++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]38  Ivellon.esp  [Version 1.8]39  OCC-Ivellon-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]3A  300_Artifacts.esp3B  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]3C  BrotherhoodRenewed.esp  [Version 1.0.1]3D  GTAesgaard.esp3E  GTAesgaard_2.esp3F  Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp  [Version 1.0]40  Kragenir's Death Quest.esp41  KDQ - Rural Line Additions.esp42  GlenvarCastle.esp43  Servant of the Dawn.esp44  The Ayleid Steps.esp  [Version 3.0]45  thievery.esp46  thievery - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]47  VHBloodlines 1.2.esp  [Version 1.4]48  OCC-Verona-Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]49  Cyrodiil Travel Services.esp  [Version 2.0.1]4A  za_bankmod.esp4B  TOTF.esp4C  OCC-TOTF-Patch.esp  [Version 4.2]++  TOTF Delayer.esp4D  The Lost Spires.esp4E  OCC-Lost Spires-Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]4F  Mighty Umbra.esp50  MannimarcoComplete.esp51  MannimarcoRevisited.esp52  MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp  [Version 0.1]53  ElsweyrAnequina.esp54  HeartOftheDead.esp  [Version 6.2]55  bartholm.esp56  bartholm - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]57  Open Cities New Sheoth.esp  [Version 1.1]58  Open Cities Bartholm.esp  [Version 1.0.3]59  Open Cities Full.esp  [Version 3.3.3]5A  OCC-OOO-Patch.esp  [Version 2.3]5B  DarkAltars.esp5C  ActorsHaveTorches.ESP5D  Leviathan Soulgems.esp5E  Enhanced Vegetation [125%].esp5F  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.0.1]60  ConduitMagic.esp61  DS Realistic Enchanted Item Limits.esp  [Version 1.2]62  sr_enhanced_magic_system.esp63  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]64  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]65  MidasSpells.esp66  Midas OscuroGems.esp++  Midas Betterholy.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Midas Creature Ingredients.esp++  Midas PowDur2x.esp++  Midas Eldrich Power 2x.esp++  Midas Tigernolevel OBSE.esp67  AudaciousMagery.esp68  Jpm's Miniature Necromancy.esp69  RshAlchemy.esp6A  RshAlchemyRecipes.esp6B  SM Combat Hide.esp  [Version 1.2]6C  StealthOverhaul.esp6D  SM Bounty.esp  [Version 1.22c]++  CoblDeathFix.esp  [Version 1.20]6E  kuerteeNPCsYield.esp6F  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp70  nGCD.esp71  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp72  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]73  ProgressSBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]74  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]75  ProgressRacial.esp76  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]77  CM Partners.esp78  CM Partners NPC.esp79  CM Partners More NPCs NE.esp7A  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp7B  psychopartner3.esp7C  psychopartner5.esp7D  psychopartner2.esp7E  psychopartner6.esp7F  theguywhounlockedthecell.esp80  psychocompanion.esp81  psychocompanionfinal.esp82  psychopartner8.esp83  psychocompanion1.esp84  Haelia.esp85  Agatha.esp86  Etienne.esp87  Ralwen.esp88  Lathasa.esp89  Ingrid.esp8A  Ktuulu.esp8B  Lgwanda.esp8C  Torkemada.esp8D  Ida.esp8E  1em_Vilja.esp8F  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]90  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]91  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]92  bgBalancingOptionalLessHealth.esp  [Version 10.0UV-U]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalMoreEyes.esp  [Version 10]++  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]93  bgBalancingEVLAMEAddition.esp  [Version 10.51EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVLAMEGlue.esp  [Version 10.0EV-D1.62EV]94  bgIntegrationEV.esp  [Version 0.993]95  OC+Integration Patch.esp  [Version 2.0]96  AltEnchAndSpell.esp97  DMMagesGloves.esp98  OOO-Respawn_Two_Week.esp  [Version 1.33]99  1310-Chamelion-NoRefraction-TESSource.esp9A  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]9B  bgMagicLightningbolt.esp9C  DS Flaming Arrows.esp  [Version 1.2]++  Life Detected - OMOD.esp++  KoldornsImprovedLava2.esp9D  Shining Creatures.esp9E  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2]9F  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]A0  Bashed Patch, 0.espA1  Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp  [Version 3.1a]A2  Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.espA3  Streamline 3.1.esp

I don't have any mod with initials: "kSSB" in my load order and I checked all the INI files in oblivion/data folder, including the subfolders "tèjon" and "ini".

Thanks for the replies (PS: Nice guide, Tomlong ^^)

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:33 am

Yup. Whoever did this one went cryptic it seems, haha. I only found one immediately obvious issue, and it has nothing to do with debug messages. Have you tried just deactivating chunks of mods? Since this is not a crash issue, you do not have to be particularly delicate about it. All you need to see is the messages not appearing to narrow down the search.

27 ExnemRuneskulls.esp <-- Already merged into MMM 3.7

Edit: Thank you. Well, it looks to be an OBSE-dependent mod. Those types of messages I would expect from Enhanced Economy... Look for mods that keep track of containers or inventory, I suppose.

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:39 pm

Yup. Whoever did this one went cryptic it seems, haha. I only found one immediately obvious issue, and it has nothing to do with debug messages. Have you tried just deactivating chunks of mods? Since this is not a crash issue, you do not have to be particularly delicate about it. All you need to see is the messages not appearing to narrow down the search.

27 ExnemRuneskulls.esp <-- Already merged into MMM 3.7

Edit: Thank you. Well, it looks to be an OBSE-dependent mod. Those types of messages I would expect from Enhanced Economy... Look for mods that keep track of containers or inventory, I suppose.

Thanks for the runeskulls xD... I'll use MMM-diverse runeskulls instead.

Those messages aren't annoying me... I'm just courious, but also I'm afraid it could be a problem in the future.
I doublechecked all inis in my oblivion/data folder and there are not debug options active. I explicitly checked EE because it actived the debug in the ini, and I disabled the function as I installed it.
I'll check all ini files I can find and I'll see. Thanks for help

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:03 pm

That is good. I would, however, be bugged the extra clutter. Disabling plugins in groups should help you find it soon enough. Try binary search. ^___^

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:23 am

That is good. I would, however, be bugged the extra clutter. Disabling plugins in groups should help you find it soon enough. Try binary search. ^___^

After a lot of :banghead: and :swear: I decided to google "Oblivion kSSB Debug" and I found a Japanese (or Chinese) Oblivion Modlist and I saw there was a "kuertee Simple SaddleBag", part o kuertee horse command mod. Trying to eliminate debug messages, but I checked the ini so many times I almost learned it by heart and I didn't notice any debug command in there. I'll try again.
Thanks for the help anyone^^

EDIT: oh my...... there WAS a debug command..... And I never noticed it :lol:

sometimes I feel myself an idiot :facepalm:

» Wed Sep 22, 2010 4:17 pm

After a lot of :banghead: and :swear: I decided to google "Oblivion kSSB Debug" and I found a Japanese (or Chinese) Oblivion Modlist and I saw there was a "kuertee Simple SaddleBag", part o kuertee horse command mod. Trying to eliminate debug messages, but I checked the ini so many times I almost learned it by heart and I didn't notice any debug command in there. I'll try again.
Thanks for the help anyone^^

EDIT: oh my...... there WAS a debug command..... And I never noticed it :lol:

sometimes I feel myself an idiot :facepalm:

Good for you for finding it. I thought about Kuertee because of the "k", but I figured since you had looked through all of the INI files that that was out, haha. ^___^

Happy gaming!
- Tomlong75210