Street Magician : V

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:40 pm

heres an idea
have some random dude in a city conning people into thinking he's a magician, if your an illusionist you can show him being a fraud,a sneaky fellow you can steal one of his props and show everyone, or if you a combat person you can force him to talk
his name Angel Christine
think they should do it?
ig88 put it in better words then me

Perhaps this street magician could be conning people by doing something that is impossible by Nirn's conventions of magic? I mean for example, he could be faking 100% revival of a dead "volunteer", completely restored to his/her former self, after killing him/her right in front of the crowd. It could then turn out that he was using a paralysis, a weak-sauce combat spell, and some healing to offset the spell's damage, and then casting dispel to "reanimate" the "dead" "volunteer". For icing on the cake it could turn out that the "mage" really knows nothing about magic and was actually using scrolls he obtained from someone to use for his little scheme.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:52 pm

No. People know how to do magic in Tamriel. It's no secret.

If someone was foolish enough to think that would be worth doing at all, it would be a Bosmer.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:44 pm

I already stomped one http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tribunal:The_Summoner in Tamriel. :shrug:

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:49 am

No. People know how to do magic in Tamriel. It's no secret.

If someone was foolish enough to think that would be worth doing at all, it would be a Bosmer.

:rofl:

Nice! But its true, they know how to use magic.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:21 am

i just thought itd be a fun idea, i mean there must be some people unable to do magic

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:54 am

Of course their are people who can't do magic, but no one is going to be impressed if he faked or not. they'd just keep walking by like he's a loon.

now if he started detachings arms and legs and had them floating independantly ok.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:42 pm

i just thought itd be a fun idea, i mean there must be some people unable to do magic

I actually don't think anyone is incapable of doing magic. Magicka is inherited from Aetherius--the Sun. If it's possible for someone to be incapable of performing magic, I've certainly never heard of it.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:58 pm

i just thought itd be a fun idea, i mean there must be some people unable to do magic

nope pretty much everyone with magicka so unless they were born under the atronach and out of magika, they will be able to use it, however there are some races that cannot preform magic as well as others

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:56 pm

nope pretty much everyone with magicka so unless they were born under the atronach and out of magika, they will be able to use it, however there are some races that cannot preform magic as well as others

Even those born under the sign of the Atronach can use magicka, it just doesn't automatically replenish itself and they have to rely on potions and absorb magicka spells.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:10 am

I actually don't think anyone is incapable of doing magic. Magicka is inherited from Aetherius--the Sun. If it's possible for someone to be incapable of performing magic, I've certainly never heard of it.

It wasn't possible for many classes in Arena, but I doubt that has any place in current lore.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:54 am

:rofl:

Nice! But its true, they know how to use magic.

Perhaps this street magician could be conning people by doing something that is impossible by Nirn's conventions of magic? I mean for example, he could be faking 100% revival of a dead "volunteer", completely restored to his/her former self, after killing him/her right in front of the crowd. It could then turn out that he was using a paralysis, a weak-sauce combat spell, and some healing to offset the spell's damage, and then casting dispel to "reanimate" the "dead" "volunteer". For icing on the cake it could turn out that the "mage" really knows nothing about magic and was actually using scrolls he obtained from someone to use for his little scheme.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:01 pm

No, not really.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:45 am

Perhaps this street magician could be conning people by doing something that is impossible by Nirn's conventions of magic? I mean for example, he could be faking 100% revival of a dead "volunteer", completely restored to his/her former self, after killing him/her right in front of the crowd. It could then turn out that he was using a paralysis, a weak-sauce combat spell, and some healing to offset the spell's damage, and then casting dispel to "reanimate" the "dead" "volunteer". For icing on the cake it could turn out that the "mage" really knows nothing about magic and was actually using scrolls he obtained from someone to use for his little scheme.

like this, perfect
i couldnt put it in words

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:40 pm

It wasn't possible for many classes in Arena, but I doubt that has any place in current lore.

Probably not. It was probably only like that for the sake of gameplay and balance. It wouldn't make sense for ones class to dictate whether or not they have access to magicka and the ability to make use of it.

I'm sure there are some people in Tamriel that don't know any magic spells, but that doesn't mean they are not capable of using them at all.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:59 am

Everyone has the potential to use magic. Not everyone can do anything with their magicka.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:57 am

No, not really.

Why not?

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:27 am

he could be transmuting matter without equivalent exchange, he must have a philosopher stone
although doesn't alteration follow the same law? it cant create something with something of the same value is given up

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:03 am

he could be transmuting matter without equivalent exchange, he must have a philosopher stone
although doesn't alteration follow the same law? it cant create something with something of the same value is given up

If he's got a philosopher's stone, then the guy must have quite a high skill in alchemy... and alchemy is a magic skill in TES series, right?

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:58 pm

If he's got a philosopher's stone, then the guy must have quite a high skill in alchemy... and alchemy is a magic skill in TES series, right?

Not anymore, guy must be super stealthy.

I do not care for this idea, mainly because A) Magic is already in the game and b.) it's such a little niche of an idea I can't see the devs pouring any time into it.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:27 pm

Everyone on Nirn has the physical/mental/whatever ability to do magic, but not everyone CAN do magic.

Just like everyone on Earth could run a 5 minute mile or bench press 300 pounds (well, males anyway) but not everyone is willing to put the effort into it.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:43 am

So your Chris. Angel spinoff wont make it in the game.

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:40 am

Not a magician, but I like the idea of a con artist. The Siren's Deception was one of my favourite quests in Oblivion.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:11 pm

Sounds fine. The only way the world makes sense is that the vast majority of people don't know how to make use of magic. If it was easy and widely performed, there would be no purpose to ranged weaponry like bows, since you could just train up some Destruction casters.

» Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:51 pm

I wanna be like James Randi!

» Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:33 am

That would be cool if you could draw a crowd interested in seeing you do something entertaining with magicka. I can just see them all excited and cheering, then unleashing a catastrophic fireball of epic proportion on them all.

I can't help myself I'm anti-social.