Same old story guys. The gaming industry is full of svckers and money only talks. The same games will win the same awards for making the same games over and over again.

I think you are taking it a bit to serious (you and the "now there will never be justice for the people!" people)

I don't think there are many who don't have some sympathy for those affected by the issues (though the way some people act and post I can understand it being hard to be sympathetic sometimes) but people and those who give out game awards aren't going to redefine the rules just for you (the whole not eligible bit).

As I have said I wouldn't have an issue awarding a GOTY based on my experience. Because based on my experience of the games played this year Skyrim is my GOTY.

Unless these games awards are based on sales figures or something they also have no reason to do things differently - they have played all the games up for awards, and barring funny business which we have no evidence of, apparently Skyrim was the game they liked the most. Fair. Enough.

How about a little perspective Mr. Trolly McTrollypants?

Which is loltastic considering the complaints that Skyrim isn't the same game over and over.

I would think Valve would just win this one year after year, but I heard a bunch of Canadians were protesting for the release of HL3 during the summer. I guess the protest made them change to Bethesda. While I understand how Skyrim could win game of the year, the game breaking bugs does address an issue of the studios priorities.

And taking into account that Bethesda have even acknowledged all the issues being reported, and freely admit that they wont even be addressing most of them till January is just testimony enough that Studio of the Year should go to someone that managed to release a working game that can be enjoyed by everyone who plays it.

People can buy Batman Arkham City or Portal 2 today or tomorrow, and play the game with no problems online or offline, but Skyrim....lol....people buying that game today or tomorrow as a result of it getting GOTY will find quests that cant be finished, the occasional backward flying dragon or a guide online how to bypass basic hardware issues because Bethesda couldnt quite work it out before the big 11-11-11 date came around.

But hey...its almost Xmas, and other games that can be played...and in the UK...Skyrim is half price at ￡22.49...its just about worth that price in its current..."GOTY" state

I was more talking about Call of Duty and Co but Skyrim would have got GOTY no matter how buggy is was.

I... Why should I care? I don't take this stuff seriously anyways. :yaoming:
But they shouldn't have won though.

I thought the VGAs were awarded based on polls, or am I mistaken?

I am pretty sure I went to their website and voted for Skyrim for best game, so if you want to have a yell at anyone (because despite the fact you sunk 200 hours into it already it isn't "perfect" for you), then have a go at me.

Just be aware that I won't be listening, and don't care.

They won. Get over it.


It is literally that simple.

oh look, mr I only signed up to this site in the last 48 hrs is using big words like Troll...aww

Oh, you would like a little perspective...if I fired up my copy of Skyrim today, resistance levels will be borked, the odd dragon will either be flying backwards or just not feel the need to attack. I can find a quest that cant be completed...and if i visit the technical support area for my gaming platform of choice, Xbox 360, I will be hit with multiple threads of other people having similar issues or even worse issues but wont find any apology post from Bethesda or a date when it will be fixed

But...if i was to put in say Batman Arkham City, another nominee for GOTY, which itself picked up numerous awards at the VGA's, I can play the game all the way through, both standard and game plus mode, all the side missions, all the riddler revenge challenged and trophies, and all DLC characters with no problems, no issues....just a solid gaming experience. Bottom line is, if a game is currently a mess, full of bugs and glitches affecting a huge number of gamers across multiple platforms..its studio shouldn't even be a contender for either GOTY or Studio of the year until they are resolved

Hows that for perspective?

And how many hours gaming would that give you? Not saying that Arkham City isn't a great game, but how big is it? How long does it take to complete? How much stuff is going on that isn't relevant to the story you are following?

There is more likelihood of bugs in a 300+ hour open world game than there is in a 40 hour story based game. That's all I'm saying.

LaWl! It's funny how people (those few individuals) who got problems with their games (obviously the problem in whatever platform they play it on, cause I have yet to see all the bugs they rage about :unsure2: ), act as if all those other millions who bought and play (and enjoy) their games, have the same problems. No, the game is not in beta phase, I assure you.

Wait a damn minute here. He shares his opinion, backed by some very valid points, and you call him a troll?

You obviously have no idea what the term means.

Personally, I agree with him completely. Considering the competition, Bethesda is far from deserving Studio of the Year and Skyrim is as well, not deserving of Game of the Year in it's current condition.

Now then, that is merely my opinion, as he has his. You however, are just insulting his opinion with a term you don't even know the meaning of.

Also, please grace us with this "perspective" you are talking about, as his is pretty much spot on.

yes they did, and yes its that simple, so is the acceptance that some people, myself included...dont agree that they should have won when compared with other Game Studios who released games in 2011. I wanted to share my disagreement, just like you can shares your own disagreement with my view

would much rather be playing Skyrim but...for some reason the game just wont play like it should....not bad for a GOTY lol

Based on an overall experience from a large pool of players - so what, a poll? A survey? Sending back a form after so many hours of gaming? I think that sounds silly, how many major awards with any kind of reputation are "popularity contests"? Some sort of statistical monitoring of forum posts?

The Oscars have judges voting, the major music awards have judges voting.

If game awards want to come from the play testers/reviewers/journalists voting on the games they played then that makes just as much sense as the as movies getting awards based on a panel of actors/directors/film academics and critics casting a vote. They played the game, in their experience they must have considered it GOTY. What you or I think doesn't affect that, just like Skyward Sword winning the G4 poll didn't affect my experience that has Skyrim as my personal GOTY.



"With the exception of the fan-voted "Most Anticipated Game" and "GameTrailers.com Trailer of the Year," award nominees and winners are voted by an advisory council, featuring 25 journalists from various media outlets."

g4 has a fan poll to decide there GOTY, which featured wonderful stuff such as people (supporting both games) happily saying how many new accounts they made in order to vote. So year.

But yeah, that advisory council featuring 25 journalists, where do they get off for voting for the game they think of as GOTY. They should totally be out there trying to get a representative same of the people that bought Skyrim and judging it based on their opinions instead of their own.

I would rather play 40 bug free gaming hours then a few in a game where i would have to back track to an early save game to bypass a glitched quest and wiping out possible hours of game play...just because a game is capable of providing 300+ hours of gameplay...if the game is broken and bug ridden, its hardly going to be an enjoyable 300+ hours gaming is it?

I play games to have fun and relax..not to find bugs or issues that take me out of that gaming experience

This. Valve is a far better studio. I like bethesda but don't think they're even in the running. I like skyrim but don't think it's goty material. All these award things are questionable anyway.

Should have went to valve. Portal 2 was amazing, They are reinventing Counter-Strike in a way that will appeal to new fans, while keeping the heart, soul, and integrity of what CS is all about, and they continue to run the biggest online marketplace giant in PC gaming.

Research how gaming companies are now using PR firms. Not only for merchant sites like Amazon but to infiltrate forums as well. Don't believe the hype.

The thing is, it's 300+ (easily) hours of fun , bug free game play for the majority of players.

You are a tiny minority (REALLY tiny).

Bugs happen, once you consider the scale / complexity of Skyrim.. it's not unusual at all. Of course, most bugs are very very minor, and the game breaking bugs are only experienced by a tiny minority (like I said).

No need to be angry that the game you hate oh so much, just happens to be the best game out this year

Now..not trying to b a [censored]...

Sure but this is what has been proven time and time again with consoles and developers. Your hardware/model isn't accepting the data being fed to you, this is why when i buy single player games i download the 1.1 patch and unplug that cable till i play an online game. Sony doesn't check patches/content to see if they work for their customers, they check them to see if it will mess their servers up/etc. Same thing with microsoft.

OT: I've played enough games in my life to accept bugs, glitches and gamebreakers on consoles and PCs. My mentality is if the game svcks/is broken? that's fine moving on to another.

Far out you are a very loud example of a vocal minority!

I could be wrong, but from what ive read of your posts, your copy of Skyrim is playable, even enjoyable. Yes there are bugs and you alluded that there were more than 1 broken quest type bugs.

But surely it would be easy enough to postpone that particular quest/s until it gets fixed?

Exactly how many dragons have you seen fly backwards? And is that really a game destroying issue?

Why (and im genuinely curious) would the resistance levels on your copy be different to other PS3 players' copy? Could you not find it in your heart to just grin and bear a small amount of clipping, a bit of lag, and a few other minor sounding bugs? Maybe you could pretend you are playing Master mode :woot:

Ive put up with some issues (even ongoing) on my PC version, but am still rewarded with awesome gaming satisfaction.

I gotta admit, your dire claims that Beth arnt planning to patch until jan sounds a bit hard to stomach. I cant say I wouldnt be a bit pissed off too.

The truth is the majority of the people having problems are actually a minority. So, with that in mind, more people are having a pleasant experience with the game which lends itself to a positive overall experience. Now, don't point the gun at me and say I'm labeling you guys as 'whiners' or 'spoiled,' I'm just pointing out that, for the record, the complaints and feedback on this forum are a minority voice, we just so happen to be the most audible.

Skyrim is a great game. Bethesda is a shoddy studio. They keep releasing amazing games and screwing them up and dipping them in problems. Not to mention it takes them forever to fix.