AI & stupid NPC! : V - Skyrim

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:40 am

First off the character was in Super Omega Beast mode thats why he wasnt detected, second in Oblivion AI who just witnessed an ally fall will attack you so it wouldnt make sense for them to downgrade that

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:01 am

It has already be said that sneak governs the reaction time of the NPC. Just like trying to spot Wally, it takes time for the NPC to scan their surroundings.

So if your sneak is low and you are wear that bright neon glass armor, they will be on to you faster. If you have maxed sneak and is standing in shadows, they take time to find you, time that wasn't given to the NPC in the demo.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:35 pm

and youve seen what they want you to see

We weren't supposed to have seen the extended demo footage from quakecon or whatever it was called.

Just sayin'.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:52 pm

well i, personally, would at least turn to the direction the arrow came from and hide behind my shield. . . apparently only some sort of genius is capable of that sort of thinking

No you'd stand there in shock for 10 seconds.

Who're you kidding?

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:37 am

No you'd stand there in shock for 10 seconds.

Who're you kidding?

It's maybe 3 seconds, and his bullet time is on during maybe 2 of those 3 seconds when he drew his bow.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:03 pm

It has already be said that sneak governs the reaction time of the NPC.

Really?

I guess I'll be trying to not level my Sneak skill at all, I don't want all the NPCs to become [censored] dumb.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:41 pm

No you'd stand there in shock for 10 seconds.

Who're you kidding?

Point is, the NPC wasnt standing there in Shock it was just stupid, like I said stop giving excuses it wasn "Shocked" it was an idiot.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:21 pm

We weren't supposed to have seen the extended demo footage from quakecon or whatever it was called.

Just sayin'.

exactly

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:39 pm

Um and why not? you saw the same thing in E3 what exactly is the difference?

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:56 am

Really?

I guess I'll be trying to not level my Sneak skill at all, I don't want all the NPCs to become [censored] dumb.

Yes you really shouldn't, only stinking cats who think they are people hides in the shadows. Real men look their foes in the eye as they behead them with a battle axe.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:58 am

exactly

And sometimes, it is better that stuff like that gets out so we can complain about, otherwise they might not even realize it's a legitimate problem, or they'll go "good enough".

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:28 am

Already discussed... literally dozens of times, please use the search bar :brokencomputer:

x1000 this....

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:54 pm

Point is, the NPC wasnt standing there in Shock it was just stupid, like I said stop giving excuses it wasn "Shocked" it was an idiot.

So your saying if the NPC can't see you after an attack then they should automatically run away? There is no cover system in place, and they aren't supposed to know where your attack came from. Its very easy for you to say its "stupid" when you have no alternative idea. And "Program smarter NPCs" isn't a solution.

I mean should the NPCs run away randomly? Is that smarter?

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:21 pm

I mean should the NPCs run away randomly? Is that smarter?

As opposed to just standing there being a stationary target? Yes.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:43 pm

No you'd stand there in shock for 10 seconds.

Who're you kidding?

oh yeah, im a freaking bandit in a freaking cave and an arrow came flying out of nowhere and im thoroughly unprepared. there i was discussing the price of cheese with my good friend timmy and somebody killed him! and in a cave in the middle of nowhere, no less! i just couldnt believe my eyes, why would anyone want to hurt little timmy? he was just a bandit he wouldnt hurt a fly . . . oh how we used to run through the open fields. ive never seen someone get killed before, hell, ive never even seen blood . . . oh i just stood there in shock for 10 seconds

... and they aren't supposed to know where your attack came from.

why arent they? they should definitely be aware of where the attack came from

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:48 pm

All of your arguments are: THIS DOESN'T WORK THEY ARE STUPID NOT SHOCKED. Obviously exaggerated, but you get my point.

>First of all, he had 100 stealth what is the point of having high stealth if it affects nothing?
>He had bullet time on, it seemed longer than what it actually is in game...
You all are just going to say: No they are stupid AI SHUT UP so whatever. :brokencomputer:

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:01 pm

^
Being super stealthy shouldn't stop an NPC from realizing that someone was killed right in front of them. At the very least, the character should have bent down to check the body, or ran off in fear.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:51 am

If the bandit was really in "shock", then why did he pull out his sword?

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:18 pm

As opposed to just standing there being a stationary target? Yes.

How much more would you be complaining if the npc ran around like a chicken with his head cut off immediately upon your arrow hitting his friend?

No matter what they did people would have issues to complain about. They give npcs the ability to know where you shot from and people complain about psychic npcs; make it so npcs can't find you immediately and QQ they're dumb now!

In the moment of non-slowed reaction the npcs pulls his sword and looks around slightly before being slowed again, that's good enough for me considering how quickly todd shot.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:15 am

If the bandit was really in "shock", then why did he pull out his sword?

it was obviously because of this perk todds character had . . .

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:57 am

one thing I thought of when reading this, has there ever been an RPG with good AI? I'm thinking back and I come up with games that use Doom Era AI or AI that are based off of obvious threat formulas that you pretty much know who it's going to attack next. Heck many JRPGs would be unwinnable if the AI used any sort of tactic.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:29 pm

I don't see how you people can defend this. It's obviously stupid AI.
If I was talking to my friend and he was killed by an arrow out of nowhere I'd not just stand around waiting to get shot myself.

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:35 pm

I don't see how you people can defend this. It's obviously stupid AI.
If I was talking to my friend and he was killed by an arrow out of nowhere I'd not just stand around waiting to get shot myself.

What part of slow motion do you people not understand? He had barely a second to react before being put back into slow motion. In that second he pulled out his sword, what more do you want?

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:32 pm

Yeah, Todd probably maxed out his sneaking skills...

» Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:44 am

Derp, I have an opinion, DERP :dance: