Whats wrong with Using the Gun Nut Perk?

All it does is add +5 each to Small Guns and Repair. All three ranks would be +15 to each, however there are so many ways to increase skills that such perks are an utter waste.

That said I do have a couple of characters who use such perks, however they do not use skill books nor take the Educated perk for RP reasons. These characters are also not optimized, as that wouldn't fit them.

on my first time I;

> tryed to kill simms with a 10mm pistol and no armour....BIG mistake
> killed and looted EVERY trader i met...proved dificult to sell much after that
> picked a fist fight with a murlark
> found old olney at level 5 - 6.....need i say more

I'm so boring. I played Oblivion ad nauseum for a couple of years, so I had an idea of what to do or not do in a current Bethesda game. I really can't think of any gross mistakes I made.

Why is letting sims die bad? I though he was pointless. Also, I don't think I've ever not killed the caravans... After fonating everything at canterbury I kill em all. So many caps n stimpacts... Should I stop killing them?

Coming off of playing Duke Nukem and RR, the first time I played, I tried to use the toilet in the vault... Big shock :yuck:

Lol... I remember on my very first playthrough on the xbox I thought you could only choose one target each time with VATS

Got a laugh out of me since I'm playing Duke Nukem 3d right now.

I used a bunch of pulse grenades against organic foes.

in the vault when the sirens go off and you have to escape; bear in mind I'm sort of trigger nervous, I walk into the room where the vault administrator is and before he can even say a word i blast his head off with one shot... the girl (i forget her name) was nto very pleased with me and told me to leave and never return... at that point choose the verbal option of "why don't you come along with me." lol

What's wrong w/that, exactly?

You mean other than its a complete waste?

If you choose that perk, you lose a perk.
From the start of the game, you can get 19 perks. You pick that, now you can only get 18.
Of course, if you have broken steel its 29 and then 28. But still, getting it is stupid.

Edit: For additional content and on the topic of perks, taking the explorer perk :facepalm:

Pulse Grenades work great against Humans, non-Feral Ghouls, and Super Mutants. Just slip one in his pocket and sneak away... though I typically use Pulse Mines instead if I have them, they're about worthless for any other purpose. It's an exercise in futility getting a robot to roll / walk over one, and the two kinds of robot that like to close on you (Mr. Handy and Mr. Gutsy, though I don't know of any inherently hostile Handys)...they hover and don't set off mines.

Trying to box a Deathclaw... Yeah that didn't turn out too well.

On my first run though now. And only level 10. But...

1. Not knowing about the light on the Pip Boy till level 8.
2. Stepping on mines until I realized I could shot or disarm them.
3. Hiding behind a couple of cars.
4. Thinking I could talk to a Super Mutant. I heard them talking and figured "why not?". Big mistake.
5. Killing the ghoul chick outside of Underworld. I had been clawing around subways and just came out. And saw her and panicked. Felt so bad I reloaded a saved game.

Now, why is it so bad that Simms dies? I didn't kill him. But I did kill the guy who killed him.

That happened for me as well, fresh out of the vault more or less. I'm blaming Dogmeat for it, though.

I decided I didn't like Dukov's lip and killed him the first time I met him. Totally missed out during You Gotta Shoot 'Em in the Head.

Gave the android componant to Zimmer and didn't do anything else. It may be harder to actually do the whole quest, but you'll get several awesome rewards options.

Got in a gunfight with The Family the moment I encountered them, took me forever to be able to find Ian.

Drank all the Quantams and ate all the Sugar Bombs before I knew they could make me rich.

Got halfway through the MQ before I realized that red tick marks on the compass = enemies. My previous strategy was to go into sneak constantly and look for a [CAUTION] warning.

Got really confused when some guy at GNR said I had to get permission for power armor trading from Lyons who was 'in the lab.' I wasn't aware of the Citadel further along in the game and spent hours poking around GNR looking for a lab.

Hit Betty.

I'm sure there's more I can think of. My 'first playthrough' was like a year ago.

Well, I played Oblivion for years, so I had known most of the standard stuff controlwise. but i still did some dumb stuff:


Didn't know how to use V.A.T.S. untill level 10. Was so game changing I started a new char.

Didn't know that the fat man had an effective range of 1 foot when fired from a 0 degree angle.

On my second playthrough, I set my luck stat to 2, while playing a small guns major. I am still kicking myself for it.


Most of these came from trying to play Fallout like Oblivion with guns. That quickly changed.

well I let lucas sims die, let mr.berkly (or however you spell his name) get away, missed the random event for the firelance THREE times and I ran screaming in the streets when I first found a ghoul

On one of my early playthroughs I was escorting James from Vault 112 to Rivet City, when we ran across a huge raider encampment. I went after a raider with a missile launcher and after I killed him at short range I turned around and there was someone running at me that wasn't James. I opened fire and killed him before realizing that it was some random Wastelander, not a raider. To this day I don't know what he wanted, all I know is I got bad Karma for it.

lol wrong place at the very wrong time :gun:

If he was near a group of raiders he was probably the one rigged to explode, and he comes running at you for help. You can try to disarm it if your repair is high enough, if you can't he runs away and blows up.

It was near the Irradiated Metro, which is a random encounter location; most likely he was telling me that Grayditch was burning. Besides, I think I would have remembered if his corpse exploded lol

I've had about 3 play throughs. My first, I completely restarted because my SPECIAL was messed up.

2nd Playthrough: Got own by 6 mole rats at level 5 with like 7 bars of health left.

3rd Playthrough: (CURRENT ONE): Killed Moira in Megaton AFTER the quest, killed some ghoul guy in Tenpenny Tower (Runs the boutique), enslaved Flak, therefore Shrapnel is no longer in his shop most of the time. Killed everyone in Paradise Falls before finishing the quest, killed everyone in Big Town before finishing the quest.

So, on my 3rd play through, I have no stores to buy stuff from, lost about 2 achievements, but am very high level.

It's unnecessary since you level up so quickly anyway just playing the game. It's a wasted perk, in a lot of peoples' opinion.

I fell for it. At the time, it seems right to do, but it does end up wasting a perk that may have given you more benefits throughout the game. Immediate gratification, but not the best in the long term.