Stutter near light sources : IV

» Fri May 20, 2011 4:47 am

Heya everyone! I just have a small(ish) mod setup going on according to the 50 steps to FCOM thread and here it is:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.8]02  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]03  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.4]04  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]05  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp06  DLCShiveringIsles.esp07  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]08  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.05]**  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp09  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.8]0A  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.8]++  All Natural - EW + NW + AWS.esp  [Version 0.9.6]0B  Enhanced Water v2.0 HDMI.esp++  ln.esp0C  AmbientTownSounds.esp0D  MIS Low Wind.esp0E  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp0F  Storms & Sound.esp10  Rainbows.esp11  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.8]12  Days&Months.esp13  P1DseeYouSleep.esp14  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp15  SoT_Holiday.esp16  Harvest[Containers].esp17  Harvest[Containers] - Player Home Add-on.esp18  Harvest[Containers] - Flat-Top Barrels Add-on.esp19  Harvest[Containers] - Havok Crates Add-on.esp1A  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 3.4.1]1B  P1DmenuEscape.esp1C  Streamline 3.1.esp1D  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.3.1]1E  Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp  [Version 3.0.2]1F  DLCHorseArmor.esp20  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]21  SM Plugin Refurbish - HorseArmor.esp  [Version 1.11]22  DLCOrrery.esp23  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]24  SM Plugin Refurbish - Orrery.esp  [Version 1.11]25  DLCVileLair.esp26  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - VileLair.esp  [Version 1.21]27  P1DseeYouSleep - DLCVileLair.esp28  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp29  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2A  SM Plugin Refurbish - MehrunesRazor.esp  [Version 1.11]2B  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]2C  Mounted_Spellcasting.esp2D  DLCThievesDen.esp2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.39c]30  TamrielTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersFactionAll.esp  [Version 1.39c]31  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  ShiveringIsleTravellersFriendlyFactions.esp  [Version 1.39c]32  Full Harvest.esp  [Version 1.0]33  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp34  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]35  SM Plugin Refurbish - Battlehorn.esp  [Version 1.2]36  DLCFrostcrag.esp37  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]38  SM Plugin Refurbish - FrostCrag.esp  [Version 1.2]39  Knights.esp3A  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]++  SM Plugin Refurbish - Knights.esp  [Version 1.06]3B  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3C  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]3D  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]3E  kuerteeGoldIsAnInventoryItem.esp3F  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]40  Q - Carrying Capacity x20 v1.0.esp41  RealisticForceMedium.esp42  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp43  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.4]44  RealisticLeveling.esp45  Beautiful People.esp++  Bashed Delayers - MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.04]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.8]46  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Besides these, the "invisible" mods here include various OBSE (v19 btw) plugins like OSR, OBGEv1, Pluggy, Elys_silentvoices etc as well as the 4 GB exe hack

My system is kinda ancient - 4 GB DDR2 with a Core2 E4600 and Geforce 8400GS but it runs Oblivion with a miraculous framerate thanks to the 4 GB patch (or OSR

loaded them both simultaneously) I've also pyffied all my oblivion meshes (the BSA ones) using pyffi 2.1.6 and repacked all BSAs uncompressed

Thing is, ever since I pyffied stuff, most light sources seem to stutter like hell for me - most recent experience being the bruma mage guild attack and even more recently, the final benirus manor lich area. The moment the candles go out of my sight, the game comes back to its free-flowing pace.

I tried an experiment (cause I had the vanilla BSAs backed up

) and created a save right before entering the arsonized bruma mage guild with both pyffied and non-pyffied BSAs - results being that while both stuttered, FPS was noticeably better on the non-pyffied BSA

I'm gonna ditch this install for a fresh FCOM as soon as all my mods get pyffied so what I'd like to know is -

is pyffi the culprit??
If yes, exactly which folders do I skip to prevent pyffing the fire/flame/candle meshes??
And more importantly, exactly how do I skip folders in the latest pyffi?
The skip list works on just files right??

Thanks for all answers

» Fri May 20, 2011 6:10 am

Perhaps try removing the light flicker effect? That is known to cause slowdowns on low-end systems.

There is a Bashed Patch tweak available for this.

» Thu May 19, 2011 8:04 pm

Thanks for the tip but it didn't do the trick

Update: Noticed something in the Anvil Docks - stuttering starts NOT when I see a lamp but when I have some crates (and just crates) in view! Also noticed that when I open a crate, the sides fall open and keep bouncing up and down. Closer inspection reveals that there seems to be another pair of sides that haven't opened up but are shaking (meaning the sides are moveable)

Is Harvest Containers causing containers to overlap or something?? I highly suspect the havoc Crates addon is behind this ...