Stuttering, hiccups, container lag. : III

» Tue May 17, 2011 1:41 am

Hi!

I have a problem with my Morrowind install - I often get stuttering (move one meter, lag, move, lag, move, lag etc) and there's something wrong with opening containers (and barter menu as well), cause it takes a while fr the menu to pop-up after pressing Space (1.5-2 seconds, measuring by eye). I have encountered my problems with my previous install, but they intensified after installing Morrowind Overhaul. But, still, they sometimes happen on the old install, that why I'm posting here, not in MGSO thread.

My load order:

Spoiler

Masters for Tedril20000.ess:
001 Morrowind.esm
002 Tribunal.esm
003 Bloodmoon.esm
004 KHRoN'z.PLpatch.3.o1.esm
005 Nymeria's Monthly Respawn.esp
006 Nymeria's Faster Walk.esp
007 Book Placement Fix - Morrowind.esp
008 Balconyhouse.esp
009 IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
010 Marksman Enhanced v1.2.esp
011 BookJacketsAll.esp
012 Better Bodies.esp
013 Argonian Bodies.esp
014 Khajiit Bodies.esp
015 BetterClothesForTB.esp
016 100ProjectileStoreChance.esp
017 Featherweight Soul Gems.esp
018 Windows Glow.esp
019 Animal Behaviour.esp
020 Imperial Legion Badge.esp
021 Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
022 Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
023 Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
024 Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.esp
025 Unique Ghosts - M - T.esp
026 LeveledMagicka.esp
027 Louis_BeautyShop_v1.5.esp
028 Unofficial_Expansion_for_Louis'_BeautyShop.esp
029 Hold it - replacer.esp
030 raceheightweightadj.esp
031 DB_Attack_Mod3.esp
032 Vgreetings_PL_Minamir.esp
033 Mf_torch_toggle.esp
034 KS_Ren's_Oblivion_Hair_for_Morrowind_1.0.esp
035 abotWindowsGlow.esp (Version 1.1)
036 More Better Clothes.ESP
037 PSsorticon.esp
038 ale_clothing_v0.esp
039 Graphic Herbalism.esp
040 Sneak-Armorer Rebalance.ESP
041 ale_clothing_v1.esp
042 Female_Ranger_Armor_1_1_1.esp
043 Fair Magicka Regen (half percent).esp
044 TLM - Light Sources (Clearer Lighting).esp
045 Unique Banners and Signs.esp
046 ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
047 LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
048 Mournhold Overhaul - No NPC's.ESP
049 Vurt's Solstheim Trees & Bushes Replacer.esp
050 Water Level Fix - Full.esp
051 Vurt's Grazelands Trees.esp
052 Vurt's BC Tree Replacer II.esp
053 Animated Morrowind.esp
054 Merged_Objects.esp
055 Mashed Lists.esp

My PC:

Intel DualCore E5300 @ 2.6GHz
XFX HD 4850 512MB
2GB 800MHz RAM
500GB fast HDD (Samsung F3)

I have tried removing the new icons and inventory textures, but that didn't work. Any help is highly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

» Tue May 17, 2011 5:28 am

Are you using the Graphics Extender? I remember that on my old PC that could barely handle it, I'd get the 'container lag' with MGE on.

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:15 pm

I did some testing just yesterday and realized that Graphic Herbalism, which is part of Morrowind Overhaul, is costing me 10-20 fps depending on the number of herb containers nearby. Herbalism for Purists has nowhere near the performance impact. The problem is that it's not really safe to remove Graphic Herbalism from a saved game because disabled herbs will stay disabled forever. Someone would have to make a mod to migrate from one herbalism mod to the other.

» Tue May 17, 2011 4:21 am

I use MGE on both installs - rev 178 on "old" and rev 186 on MGSO. Looks like disabling MGE's AA and AF on the new install fixed it, but the fun part is that I use same MGE setting on both installs, so maybe it's caused bu newer MGE revision? I'll try with rev 178.

» Tue May 17, 2011 3:05 pm

I have similar problems, but when I migrated to new MGE XE beta, it perished.

» Tue May 17, 2011 2:04 am

That's probably a conflict between your pc and the newer revision of mge, but I'm not sure. Try to switch to rev 178. But I suggest you to wait the patch 1.2, there were some bugs in the MGSOO Program.
Thanks for reporting the issue.
Oh and try to open the Morrowind.ini and set Max FPS=240 to Max FPS=60, that can help the situation in the menus.

I did some testing just yesterday and realized that Graphic Herbalism, which is part of Morrowind Overhaul, is costing me 10-20 fps depending on the number of herb containers nearby. Herbalism for Purists has nowhere near the performance impact. The problem is that it's not really safe to remove Graphic Herbalism from a saved game because disabled herbs will stay disabled forever. Someone would have to make a mod to migrate from one herbalism mod to the other.

WOW, are you serious? Graphic Herbalism has no impact in my configuration. Hmm, anyway thanks for the report. I'll do some testing on other PCs here. If what you're saying is true, MGSO will switch to Herbalism for Purists.

Thanks for the reports. If you have other issues please ask

» Tue May 17, 2011 10:39 am

I'm quite surprised to hear that as well. But in any case, it should be safe to replace Graphic Herbalism with Herbalism for Purists (or vice versa), they work the same way, so the new mod will re-enable any disabled plants.

P.S. Hi, just passing through.