Suddenly extremely long loading times and slow saving : V

» Tue Jul 22, 2014 8:42 pm

I recently bought myself a new graphics card and an SSD to experience the fabled "HD Skyrim". Reinstalled Skyrim on the SSD, got Mod Combiner rolling, choosing the 1k/2k option over the 4k whenever I could, spent a lot of time on my load order and then I booted up the game.

Here's the fun part; it worked fine for like 5-6 hours of gaming, and then I started to notice the game freezing for 10-20 sec when it autosaved with the Autosave Manager mod, as well as some sounds being delayed (like if I pick flowers it won't actually make the harvesting sound until like 20 seconds after). Loading times also inexplicably increased from around 10-15 sec to over a minute in most cases, even just entering Castle Dour will now trigger a loading screen that lasts for at least 50 sec.

I'm kinda stumped here, been trying to figure out what it is for the last few hours but really coming up empty atm. Any advice would be appreciated. :/

Specs and load order:

GTX 760, 4gb Vram

8gb ram

Intel Core i5 2500K @ 3.30GHz

Are there any obvious offenders in my load order?

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
CMNewCompanions.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
SPERG.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
SMC01.esp
SMC02.esp
SMC03.esp
SMC04.esp
SMC05.esp
SMC06.esp
SMC07.esp
SMC08.esp
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Terra.esp
Presets 2-3.esp
ElvenHelmetFix.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
RelightingSkyrim-FULL.esp
Brows.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
Bounty Gold.esp
BFSEffects.esp
Beards.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp
NoCombatMusic.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Delphine Makeover.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
SplashofRain.esp
AshRocks.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
iHUD.esp
AdvancedKillMoves.esp
KillMoveRandom 200.esp
WeaponRangeFix.esp
DeadlyCombat.esp
No_stretching.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
TESGLoadingScreens.esp
Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp
Real Roads.esp
RealisticHumanoidMovementSpeed.esp
Serana.esp
SkyrimSoundTrackExpansion.esp
SkyUI.esp
DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp
SleepTight.esp
SmartCast_1_0.esp
Soul Gems Glow When Full.esp
TradeBarter.esp
vAutosaveManager.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
AOS.esp
AOS2_GDO Patch.esp
3DNPC.esp
FCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
AOS2_EBT Patch.esp
SPERG.esp
SPERG-DG.esp
SPERG-DB.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Gri_BeastFeet.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
CCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
SkyFalls Dragonborn Small waterfalls.esp
ESFCompanions.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
LogicalHealthLimit_Full.esp
SkyTweak.esp
DeadlyDragons.esp
GDRangerArmor.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp
Skyrim Unbound.esp
CornerofTheSkyrim.esp
DFB - Random Encounters.esp
SkyrimURWL.esp
CCO_SIC_Patch.esp
SPERG Weapons and Armor Complete.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Inconsequential NPCs.esp
BGSMerpsGondorianArmament.esp
ImperialGondorReplacer.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
VariedGuards.esp
Insanity's Shields.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Extra Encounters - Dragonborn.esp
RiversideLodge.esp
UniqueBorderGates-All.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
About horses 1.5.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
BosmerArmorMATY743.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-DB.esp
Immersive Followers.esp
CMNewCompanions.esp
Spousetocustomhome.esp
My Home Is Your Home.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
CircletHelms.esp
Unique Grasses.esp
Populated Skyrim Civil War.esp
Enchanting - IDWIW.esp
More Carriages.esp
Extra Encounters.esp
WATER Plants.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
Extended Encounters.esp
Extra Encounters - Dawnguard.esp
Populated Skyrim Prisons Cells.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp
CleanArrowPlayer.esp
SPERG Immersive Armors.esp
Civil War Followers.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
DathMergedPatch.esp
ASIS-Dependency.esp
ASIS.esp

» Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:25 am

Where is your Bashed Patch?

Have you changed any ini settings?

» Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:20 pm

Nope, I regenned the ini's and have only changed normal stuff like decals/grass etc. Nothing stupid. Also forgot to mention that when I equip a bow the auto unequip ammo mod will sometimes freeze the game for 10-15 seconds when equipping the arrows for some reason, really annoying and I believe it ties in with the overall issues my game has.

Why is the bashed patch necessary? I thought it only did leveled lists and plugin merging?

» Wed Jul 23, 2014 1:54 am

Use http://loot.github.io/ for your load order.

A bashed patch does levelled lists yes, it also merges stats changes. You're using multiple mods (and yes, some of the DLC's and unofficial patches count as those as well) which affect levelled lists. And multiple mods which affect stats beyond the unofficial patches (weaponsarmorfixes for example), so including those stats changes into a bashed patch is advisable as well.

From what you're experiencing it sounds like Papyrus is slow to respond or overloading. Try to lighten the scripting engine load.

» Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:36 pm

I'm already using LOOT for my loadorder And what you're describing as being done by the bashed patch is also done by the merged patch as far as I know.

But yeh, I've suspected that my papyrus was a bit overloaded :/ Which of my mods are the ones that affect papyrus scripting the most?

» Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:33 am

Out of curiosity, why are you using a merged patch and not a bashed patch? At any rate, I still suggest you create a bashed patch; even if it's redundant.

Go find your saves folder and see what the file-size on your saves are. If you've kept all your saves since the beginning, take a look at how it's grown. With all those mods I'd presume your save sizes are going to be pretty big, but if the rate of growth looks sketchy (5MB to 20MB in an hour, for instance), your saves might be bloating. Which eventually causes all of the problems you're experiencing, like saving taking forever and terrible script latency.

» Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:21 am

My "main" save, which is my lvl 16 char is only 12.7mb atm. And the reason I'm using a merged patch is that I feel it gives me more control, I always look through it and edit it manually with tesVedit to make sure nothing is wonky. :smile:

» Wed Jul 23, 2014 2:55 am

Might be worth your while to enable Papyrus logging, just so you can see if you've got any scripts going crazy.