Suddenly orphaned kids and Honorhall?

Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:40 pm

I know that most kids go to Honorhall if they were suddenly orphaned, like if their parents were total asses and their heads just came off.. Take Lars' dad Idolaf for example. He thought it was approriate to let me know he should bash my face in for merely voicing my support for the Stormcloaks and the Grey-Manes. His head touched the ground before his body. Then there's Lars' mom, Alfhild. She, like most Nord commoners, thought it was a superb idea going up against a Volkihar Master Vampire and two death hounds (spawned by the game, not by me!) with nothing but a set of farmer's clothes and an Iron Dagger.

Lars is now technicallly an orphan, but since he's a battle-born, there are others to care for him. Well, only Jon and Olfrid. Bergritte's dead and I dunno how or what killed per. Possibly stray vampires and their rabid mutts. Does he go to Honorhall or does he keep living in Whiterun?

That's strange. There's something about being rude to me and heads falling off.

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Paula Rose
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 8:23 am

Well...I personally still think even in Vanilla Skyrim children should not be immortal.

But all the Moms of America and the Sheltered Dumb Children, would be horrified by such a tragic thing. How dare children realistically die in a video game? Because it breaks my emersion and not only that, but that stupid little girl when it comes to my assassin mark is a eye witness and goes tells the guards. I can't do anything about it either, because she doesn't die.

Well thanks for ruining my game.

And it isn't because I want to kill children or anything. It just should be there for the realistic fact that children die. And I'm sorry of that ruins your perfect world, sheltered to dumbfy your child even more. Because this world is made of cotton candy and sparkles, and unicorn rainbows. Then they get into the real world are hardly even prepared for its tragedies. Then they repeat the cycle where everything in the media makes them afraid because its to dark than that rainbow turd the Unicorn [censored] out.

Errr...yeah I have problems.

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Dan Wright
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:39 am

I don't think you have problems, just a deep thinker. (And I agree)

@OP- I think he goes to honorhall but i'm not sure.

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Sarah Edmunds
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:38 pm

Children used to be immortal, until I got off my lazy [censored] and unchecked a box in the CK and made an esp out of it. :)

Oh, they can also wield battleaxes now because I changed their class from child to something else (can't remember though)

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Roberto Gaeta
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:07 pm

Skyrim doesn't always make sense

-Kill someone in front of a Chicken, now I have a bounty, then a guard comes up to me and tells me to pay off my bounty

So we're saying the Chicken notified the guard with a "Bawk" that I murdered someone?

To OP, I got a little off topic with this one. They would go to Honorhall. However! What if Grelod the Kind is dead and so is her assistant? Then what? [well the DLC fixed that cause now there is new management, but I killed her too....soooo]

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Emily Martell
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:27 pm

Certain children remain in there locations - here is what child stays and goes: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Child

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Naughty not Nice
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:48 am

No, it doesn't specify who stays and goes if they're orphaned.

I know that "lesser important" kids go to Honorhall, but I've waited a few days now and Lars is still in the Battle-Born house.

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Laura Richards
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:15 am

I kind of agree with you, and if you really look at the infant/child mortality rates on Earth during the Dark Ages, it really doesn't make sense that none of them die in Skyrim. There should at least be a plague or two every once in a while. After all, where do you think "Ring around the roses" came from?

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Ilona Neumann
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 3:06 pm

Not to mention that the game is rated 17 or 18 plus in most countries, so what the moms complain about should have zero effect, but developers know full well that parents buy M rated games for kids.

Quite idiotic for parents buying M-rated content to their kid to complain about... M-rated content. But the world is filled with idiots.

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Sami Blackburn
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 5:18 pm

Here's the thing. I am not full on maniac nor a pscyhopath.

When I was very young I watched my dad play Quake and Doom. And when I was old enough, we're talking 5. I was playing Quake or Doom. All my life, I have played M rated games. Heck I played God of War at like 11 years old and I'm okay.

My parents had always taught me, that what I saw on TV wasn't real. And made sure I understood reality from fiction.

It's all I ever played, M rated games. There were rarely any game in my bookshelf that wasn't M rated. It's because parents want an electronic babysitter without the you know parenting aspect.

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Kay O'Hara
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 11:33 am

Enough about how you want to kill kids. Topics get locked for that.

I don't know, truthfully, because I don't have Dawnguard (which is what creates most orphans by circumstance) and none of my characters kill nonthreatening NPC's. Not even my vampire assassin. But the UESP Wikia does not list Lars as a kid who becomes adoptable.

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Danny Blight
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:17 am

It isn't that we want to kill kids. We were discussing the realism involved in making kids not immortal.

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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:06 am

Well, it's generally not possible to start storms, calm animals, ignite things, freeze people solid, and hurl people/objects across the room just by shouting. So I think realism is kind of off the table here.

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Josephine Gowing
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:26 am

Yes, but I already had said scenario where realism is needed.

DB assassin, walks into a house to kill said family member, just happens when he is doing the deed, a child who should probably be asleep witnesses said murder or witnesses said DB assassin over dead body.

That's a gameplay element of realism within the fantasy realism of this world.

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Neliel Kudoh
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 1:45 pm

Maybe, but consider that if the carnage gets too extreme, the six gets too graphic, or the content gets too horrific, the game gets an AO rating. And I know that Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all refuse to let AO games be ported for their systems.

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Kitana Lucas
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 7:16 pm

Companies want to sell their games, so anything that makes the game be rated AO and has to be sold over the counter is not ideal.

And just a bit off-topic, but topics like this makes me wonder if there was a reason for the 'Mental Health.gov' button at the bottom of the forums. :P
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:15 am

So killing children is considered AO? It's illogical.

And even then there should be SOME way of getting the kid to back off. Maybe not kill them, but maybe a specific Speech section for when a kid has caught you red handed

"Don't tell the guards or your mother. I will give you [insert coin or bribe] (persuade check)"

"Run away and I slice your neck child. [intimidate check]"

or Do Nothing.

But it's unfair to a gamer to punish them because, "killing children is taboo" or "hurting a child is taboo"

I do not want to kill children. But I want there to be a fair way for the player to be able to get around their immortality.

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Julie Ann
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:34 am

^ That I can see. Bribe/persuade/intimidate the kid.
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Sabrina Steige
 
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Post » Sun Jan 19, 2014 10:14 am

Exactly. It's not that hard to think of something to keep the mature rating, but allow the players a fair chance.

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