I kind of feel like the class I chose to roll has made this game overly easy on even master dificulty. Just to see if this game is just too easy I rolled mage and I hate it with a flaming passion. The class I went with was an archer/warrior who uses sneak in combination with archery when not seen, and light armor with two handed fighting for stamina and the stealth part. Was this a cheap class that even a drunk monkey could blow through the game with? I want a challenge, and the only fight that has given me trouble so far was an ancient dragon, ands thats because my game was glitching and my character wouldnt stop sprinting so he would constantly drain stamina.

Give your self a handicap example: no armor, no potions, no enchantments, etc.

fight a giant

Wait, you say its too easy when you are part everything but mage, and the game is too hard when you go pure mage?

Am i the only one who fails to see the logic?

A giant once stood a chance against me when I was level 5 with leather armor. I am level 36 with dragonscale armor, a legendary daedric longbow, and a legendary nordic hero greatsword. If an ancient dragon gave me a run for my money when I was glitching horrible 6 levels ago, why the hell would a giant even dent my character?

u had no mention of what level u are, every te game is easy once you reach a certain level, my oblivion charcter could take out 20 ancient draagons at a time, and morrowind infinite

If you honestly feel like the game is too easy than do what some of us are doing by playing the game as "dead is dead".

I just lost my character this evening to a trap that two shot me. My character is now dead and I'm going to reroll.

The entire experience is completely different. I'm playing on master difficulty and you can believe that my adrenaline goes up at fights I'm not sure I'll win. Sometimes things really are easy, but it only takes one misstep, one wrong turn, one wrong battle to lose it all and this my friend is not easy. It's very hard (and very fun I might add).

This style of gameplay isn't for everyone, but I encourage you to try it at least once.

In this post I mentioned myself fighting an ancient dragon. Ask yourself if bethesda would release an ancient dragon in the begginning of the game. No, they wouldnt because thats what [censored]s do. Ancients dragons begin appearing at level 32 meaning I must have been atleast level 32.

Fight a bear :biggrin:

Although that doesnt sound like a bad idea, I think that it would piss me off too much after the third character. I play on expert, sometimes master and have only died once a few hours in when I tried to take on a giant at level 5. I have had a few close calls (like with the ancient) but other than that im pretty much unstopable.

Master is not impossible evry mob is able to be killed,but still its not that easy as expert and adept if u dont use overpowred specs like 1handed,blacksmithing, and enchating

Then it sounds like you have little to actually lose. Give it a try and see if it doesn't make you play differently. At least by the second character you will probably learn to have a proper fear of some things.

I don't find it annoying personally because each time I play, if you have been faithful to the "dead is dead" mentality, I know that each battle or each encounter I have with danger has the realistic consequence of losing everything and that makes it more fun to me. Most people that play this way don't describe "dead as dead" as annoying but more like frustrating or even emotional. You are invested in what you lost so there are more emotions than annoyance itself.

To easy

I play at adept and die all the bloody time . But then I do play a Nord Barbarian that refuses to use magic of any sort and wears only leather armor, at the most. And come to think of it isn't a very good blacksmith

Level scaling is completely screwed. 22 levels in and I havent backed out of a fight yet. I have done a huge amount of dungeons, yet i'm wearing bought gear and have been the whole game! I literally haven't found ANYTHING that is useable. I've been using bought gear and standard elven gear I found at level ~10 or something, and now i'm level 22. (edit: I have found a helmet with 10 more increase magicka than what I can enchant myself or buy, so I suppose that's a good find. To monetize it though, the helmet is worth 800 or something if I remember correctly)

Giants are easy, they were easy at level 7 for my mage. Because of the endless tactical opportunities in the landscape surrounding giants, they should be easier than most dungeons while being low level for any mage or archer.

Blood dragon, Krosis and frost atronarch at the same time, by chance, was pretty challenging, but easily manageable for my character at level ~14-15, no particular skill needed. Can admit the fight would've been hairy without the Become Etheral shout, as Krosis came up behind me while I was focusing on the dragon.

Some forsworn mage guy kills me with 1 hit, now that i'm over level 20, when he uses his best spell. It takes a major screw up for it to hit though. Still an easy fight. Would still call this enemy the strongest faced yet though. And now it's just a standard enemy I face it seems, who drops nothing but crap in a dungeon with nothing but crap. Great level scaling!

I've been hoarding potions since the start thinking this would be hard. Yet, I ended up selling all my minor mana and health potions some levels ago, now i'm considering selling all my higher tier potions too. 22 levels in and i've needed them in 3 or 4 fights.

The game obviously has a lot of things going for it though, and I do not regret putting in all these hours on this character that I know i'm scrapping soon without finishing or diving deep into any of the quest lines. Can't wait for mods to come out!

I'm happy for you guys who found challenge with your character builds though. Seems it was easy if you rolled warrior w/o magic or bow+arrow, and didn't exploit blacksmithing and enchanting. I'm expecting challenge with a balanced mage build though, and not finding any is dissapointing.

Also, as a mage i've been using only 4 spells. Healing spell for restoration and Flames, then firebolt and then lastly fireball for killing. Now I only use 2 as fireball is far superior to the two other destruction spells. Other destruction spells as for example fire rune is a complete joke. Only 2 useful spells for my mage, and there's no spellcrafting.

Fight TWO giants.

I have no idea what game some of you are playing but i play on the default level and die quite a lot.

Master necromancers/conjurers/mages are the only real challenge to my Rogue other than the dragons.

Magic just tears right through my armor.

I do wish there was a difficulty above Master though. Impossible or something.

Okay I could take on twenty giants easily if you reccomend 21 giants I will cut you, hehe anyway no, no giants.

Sounds like you maxed out your smithing. (Do you also have the stacked smithing bonuses from enchanting and alchemy?)


Me, I've just been leveling my Smithing with the materials I've found while playing (not buying all the iron ingots at the shop and mass producing daggers). Level 33, 53 Smithing. Superior Gilded Elven Armor, Superior or Exquisite Glass Sword. Rest of my armor pieces are things I found, due to the good enchantments on them (stuff I can't duplicate yet with Enchanting - 50% fire & frost resist, 25% bow damage, etc). And I don't have the "improve magic items" perk yet, so none of them are boosted.

Enemies are a good bit more challenging than you're describing. :shrug:

Too easy? Are you not the Dragonborn, the toughest kid on the block.

Those who say the game is easy or that perks are overpowered, play in Master with a melee warrior.

Epic or die.

Wow I couldnt read anything you just posted, your grammar is terrible. I assume it went something like this. "I am cool because I can swear. You are not as cool as I am. I am not 6 I am 32 I could kick your ass because I am tough. You are the six year old." Pretty close right?