Because I don't want to see more offshoots. There's barely even a real BoS anymore so it doesn't make sense for more and more groups to still call themselves that. As far as I can tell their numbers only add up to like 200 people so nah I'm done with them. I'll be fine with seeing the existing ones or ones mentioned but we don't need more and more.

Until they do it, it hasn't happened.

And I pray it never does.

I would rather them explore the supposed Montana BoS before even doing anything that implied PoS is canon.

Regardless, even without Texas, the Brotherhood of Steel already covers a great deal of territory.

Isn't Texas full of rad-cyclones that last for years?

Also the Circle of Steel allegedly exists somewhere. It just seems ridiculous to me that given their apparent low numbers that they could be considered a large faction across the nation. They're just a bunch of different groups with the same armor. Judging by fo2 the original group is very weak and small.

The Circle of Steel is an organization inside the BoS that basically serves as internal affairs.

I think that was something from Van Buren, and thus not canon until otherwise stated.

Well, I think it's important to note that at least some of these BOS chapters are splinter groups. Both the Midwest and Capitol Wasteland BOS chapters recruit openly from the general population. That is what has allowed both of those groups to grow so large and to be so successful. We also know almost nothing about the Montana chapter of the BOS. We don't know if they've stayed true to the Codex of if they, too have splintered off and started doing their own thing.

I don't think the BoS is going to be a de facto bad guy or good guy. The concept art shows the PC fighting alongside a knight.

I don't know, that Lone Wanderer guy brought the Outcasts enough tech to field an army. On the other hand, the Outcasts must be pretty low on 5.56mm ammo and stimpaks.

Texas never happened. The whole Texas thing is a result of one Elder getting a paper cut while shuffling some papers and the cut got infected. The story he related about the Texas branch while delusional from fever has been repudiated by both Interplay and Bethesda.

The big gear is to the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Steel_(Midwest) side of the sword instead of the normal http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Steel side. They're Midwest Brotherhood.

The flag Lyon's uses in The Den area of The Citadel in Fo3 has the gear on the right as well

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/0/0e/FO3BoSflag.png/revision/latest?cb=20130625133110

Its Lyons

Hope you can take BOS out of play. Never liked their selfishness in hoarding technology that the people of the wastes could use

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I honestly hope you can do a coup and take out the leadership, claiming the BoS for your own and re-structuring the group.

That flag is weird. If you look at the Brotherhood power armor in FO3 the insignia has the gear on the left side like the standard Brotherhood.

Wasn't the whole thing about the Mid-western that they thought the BoS shouldn't be isolationists so the western sent anyone who thought that way to the east? It may not be officially called an exiling but it is essentially exiling them.

Well, the big gear was on the right

-On the tags they placed to mark the route to GNR: http://i.imgur.com/gwqHrBZ.jpg%C2%A0%C2%A0http://i.imgur.com/c25dhOi.jpg

-On the big sign above The Citadel's door: http://i.imgur.com/faNjhDQ.jpg

-On their flag: http://i.imgur.com/N3bo1MB.jpg

-On the Aqua Pura barrels: http://i.imgur.com/jO9lLKf.jpg

-On the Aqua Pura crates: http://i.imgur.com/Q9PYraU.jpg

The only time its on the left IIRC is on their armor

...maybe its just an east coast vs west coast thing and shouldn't be looked into more than that. My bad.

Their armor being probably the only remnant thing they have to the west coast BoS

I think the real question is not who is there but why they are there. Its a BIG difference in the story depending on the reason. If they are there because "androids are people too and we are here to save them" than I would be a tad disappointed, same goes if they are there because "institute bad we good" mentality. It got kind of old in Fo3 and caused some to be upset with the BoS as a faction.

I would like to see them return in this game with their original mission, to obtain pre war advanced tech. They have come to take the tech because its "their job" not because its morally right.

This is the likely reason, they have no reason to repaint the armor symbol since its basically the same thing anyways.

Also, the big gear is on the right on the little tags they placed to mark the route to GNR.

http://i.imgur.com/gwqHrBZ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/c25dhOi.jpg

Not really.

They sent the expedition that wound up in Chicago to the East Coast to gather tech. That was the reason for the expedition.

Once it was decided to send an expedition the Elders figured it was a perfect opportunity to get some of the more troublesome BoS members out of their hair. They would not have staffed the entire expedition with a bunch of malcontents, either. After all, they still wanted the tech.

They steer the waters of life, is my guess. All that responsibility finally proved their downfall.

Well, here's our chance to burn them like the Hindenburg. Avalon's waiting.

Nah, they probably use helium and not hydrogen.