It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification

Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:28 pm

SO CHILL THE **** OUT!!! I see the same type of complaining from the console crowd EVERY TIME a new FPS comes out. Crytek has already RELEASED TWO PATCHES in a span of less than a month (which is far more than many other developers have done)



It's NOT the community managers job to hold your hand and constantly tell you a fix is incoming for all these issues. Very few if any developers that I have seen ever released patch details for consoles until one is actually released.


- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification


It has already been stated firmly by Crytek that they will continue to support the game until it's well within a golden standard of satisfaction.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:17 pm

Yea dude the point was that the game shipped in such a bad condition in the first place. Updates are great and all but when people can't even play their **** game the way it was intended then I think people have the right to complain. Oh, and lack of communication from a company that releases a **** quality product is NOT going to go well with their customers. No matter what business you're in, that is absolutely unprofessional. An update is welcome but this atrocious act will not go unforgotten. I don't believe I will ever buy another Crytek game again.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 6:36 am

Yea dude the point was that the game shipped in such a bad condition in the first place. Updates are great and all but when people can't even play their **** game the way it was intended then I think people have the right to complain. Oh, and lack of communication from a company that releases a **** quality product is NOT going to go well with their customers. No matter what business you're in, that is absolutely unprofessional. An update is welcome but this atrocious act will not go unforgotten. I don't believe I will ever buy another Crytek game again.

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It'd be like going to get food and being given a bag of trash. Then on your return to the store they locked the doors and ran out the back.

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Post » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:57 pm

Congratulations - You just won the Captian Obvious competition, I'm mailing you out a cookie now.

You notice how Crytek managed to get out 2 patches within a week of release? That was because they were working on them well before the game was available for purchase. It is a pretty clear indication that the developers knew the myriad of issues contained in their "finished" product, and was working at break neck speed to resolve some of them. But considering how many trials this company had, closed beta and 2 rounds of public demos, it is beyond credible to suggest we remain consistently patient for a company that doesn't seem to be listening to it's consumers.

So are you going to play the role of Apologist on Cryteks behalf? This is the "Official" Crysis community, shouldn't we expect some level of communication, rather then let the forums whip themselves into a frenzy everytime some body provides second hand information? Confirm or Deny, don't ignore the community and facilitate the rage and frustration. If people want to have a rant and a sook that is their choice to do so, why even bother to be ancillary to the moderators lack of interest in the forums, the community and communication? Just ignore those that you find annoying and get on with the rest of your day. If I could actually play C2 to a reasonable degree online I would never have even come to the forums, I can't stand forums, because more often than not they are full of people complaining about something or other. So it is more than a little silly to ask people to stop complaining, it just invites those that do little but bich to come and flame-on in the thread, which in turn increases the amount of negativity and complaining going on.....
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:17 am

We have every right to complain and moan about the game's issues. However, Crytek also has every right to not care about our collective complaining and to do things their own way on their own time.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:06 pm

SO CHILL THE **** OUT!!! I see the same type of complaining from the console crowd EVERY TIME a new FPS comes out. Crytek has already RELEASED TWO PATCHES in a span of less than a month (which is far more than many other developers have done)



It's NOT the community managers job to hold your hand and constantly tell you a fix is incoming for all these issues. Very few if any developers that I have seen ever released patch details for consoles until one is actually released.


- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification


It has already been stated firmly by Crytek that they will continue to support the game until it's well within a golden standard of satisfaction.

Where was it stated that Crytek would continue support, somewhere on these forums? Link? C2 was released March 22-25 depending where you are in the world, so that "2-3 weeks" logic now proves flawed. And alot of people have issues with the patch they DID release not even working, me included. It's not a stupid point that this particular "AA Title" came out of the gate with dozens of GAME-BREAKING glitches when most games, even B-listers release with almost unnoticeable ones. It's usually left to a few guys on YouTube to find the little problems with games, yet almost EVERY person who touches it notices a half-dozen detracting issues day one! With a beta there should have been no reason that a majority of these problems shouldn't have been ironed out. Judging by the final product's release and our "customer support" so far, it's fair to assume that any assistance in the future will be broken and half-hearted. As for what you said in regards to other developers putting out patches so early, they don't often need to. So don't judge the people who are disappointed because we didn't get anywhere near the value we PAID for...

"... to ensure all issues are resolved when the game launches next week", as their priority is to "ensure that the final product is flawless at launch"

Yeah right!
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:01 pm

Wow, when I started typin' all that ^^^ there was only the topic in this thread...
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:34 am

I'm not as mad about the patch taking so long as I am about the lack of information Crytek has (not)provided. Absolutely horrible business ethics, they have just left us here to wonder about the patch with no assurance ..it takes less than 5 minutes to post "we are working on it everyone, the time line is...." but no, they don't even have the decency to do that. Pathetic.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:19 am

Yeah, the current state of Crysis 2(XBox360) and the lack of any knowledge at all as to when to expect fixes is pretty weak. At least the other two platforms have working graphics, but the 360 version is bugged with the grain glitch. It's been bumming me out since I bought the game on day one and I'm still waiting for the patch because I love Crysis. :/
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:10 am

Thanks for the heads up. :D
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:20 am

Seriously and considering Crytek has only put out ONE other game and ONE other expansion for that only game, you'd think they'd step it up and be active with their community. This is seriously the worst way to handle your games and will severely tarnish their name. Shipping a bad quality product and keeping your consumers in the dark comes off as a smug "Well, we have your money now so if we care enough to get to it, maybe we'll finish tweaking the game". Not to mention who ever was in charge of their beta testing and what not. The PS3 never even go to touch it. They couldn't get the beta out in time. Talk about miss-management.

Lest we forget the MOUNTAIN of problems the PC platform is having. Their are people who bought the game and can't even log-in to play. Piracy and incompatibilities issues plague this game to no end. Even the promised DX11 support which wasn't true, to things like Auto-Aim being patched out of the PC version only because the forums raged about it. I mean wtf are they doing over there?
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:24 am

To Cry-Adam, look at this latest tweet from the community manager of Atari/Eden Game's Test Drive Unlimited 2.

"just spoke with the dev team... DLC1 could be ready by next week for PC release and Xbox/PS3 submissions! I'm getting excited..."

http://twitter.com/#!/TDU2/statuses/60460219729317889

This was posted today about the free update they have had planned for a while now and their community has been wanting more info about. This is the type of communication people are looking for here.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:55 pm

Yes, probably? If you can site a source that says 2-3 weeks I'd enjoy reading it. Not mocking you, I really did try to find some reliable information on microsoft xbox certification and came up basically dry except for some what might as well have been third party information from 2 years ago.

What I can tell you tho is this: They can have more than one patch going through the cert process at one time. So with this game being as broken as it is, why wouldn't they have had a patch for the most popular problems in networking, MP glitches, booster-stopper(sorry my word selection is weak, it's late), and a patch for the SP bugs.

Remember, I'm saying the most popular ones. Like host migration being horrible and basically non-existent for laggy games. Adding a line of code that says USA should not host games for Australia couldn't take more than 2-3 days and would help basically 90% of their user base. So with a 2 week certification for like 10 lines of code(this would be absurd) they could have still had this specific patch out 16 days ago.

Weakest set of developers I have ever heard of. Hurry up and get the DLC out before more people stop playing. Sure you can scraqe up another million or so to put towards making another broken version of this ****.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:27 am

What I can tell you tho is this: They can have more than one patch going through the cert process at one time. So with this game being as broken as it is, why wouldn't they have had a patch for the most popular problems in networking, MP glitches, booster-stopper(sorry my word selection is weak, it's late), and a patch for the SP bugs.



Because the time it takes to resolve these issues takes more than a few weeks + the time for certification.


Name one P2P game that wasn't a laggy glitchy cluster **** within weeks of release? Yeah, they all have had their fair share of skipping players. MW2 for example had constant host migration failures and among other things the Javelin suicide glitch for the first handful of months.

God forbid an EA game that has Dedicated Servers takes nearly a half year for the networking issues to be completely ironed out.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:13 am

So are you going to play the role of Apologist on Cryteks behalf? This is the "Official" Crysis community, shouldn't we expect some level of communication, rather then let the forums whip themselves into a frenzy everytime some body provides second hand information?


You should expect what every other developer gives the community after a games release..... nothing.



I have no idea why people expect "communication" from Developers when no Devs have ever truly "communicated" directly with the community in the way you make it seem.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:08 am

Even if this game does get a patch, I'm not going to buy another product from crytek only because they can't gurantee me quality for the amount of money I paid. 60 dollars is what I could spend on groceries for myself for a week if I balanced it out correctly, especially in this economy that's quite a bit. So considering the quality I got I don't think they're a reliable company, especially the way they've ignored their consumer's pleas to address the online situation. This has reached pathetic levels now, and I hate to say it but I regret ever buying this game and wasting my time on it, because I really wanted to like this game, it had so much more potential. But this game will always be remembered in crytek history as their biggest dissapointment.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:25 am

Even if this game does get a patch, I'm not going to buy another product from crytek only because they can't gurantee me quality for the amount of money I paid. 60 dollars is what I could spend on groceries for myself for a week if I balanced it out correctly, especially in this economy that's quite a bit. So considering the quality I got I don't think they're a reliable company, especially the way they've ignored their consumer's pleas to address the online situation. This has reached pathetic levels now, and I hate to say it but I regret ever buying this game and wasting my time on it, because I really wanted to like this game, it had so much more potential. But this game will always be remembered in crytek history as their biggest dissapointment.



Sounds just like your typical internet user grieving to me.
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I have no idea why people expect "communication" from Developers when no Devs have ever truly "communicated" directly with the community in the way you make it seem.

Oh C'mon, when several threads about a "rumoured incomming patch" appear on the forum everyday is it really that difficult to clarify by taking 5 minutes to type:

"We have not recieved information to that effect. We will post any relevent information we have, when we have it."

They made several statements in the same manner about a week ago. And that was about the previous patch.

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Post » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:40 pm

tag this I'll read more later
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:05 am

I was with you up to this point

It's NOT the community managers job to hold your hand and constantly tell you a fix is incoming for all these issues. Very few if any developers that I have seen ever released patch details for consoles until one is actually released.

Then tell me the purpose of a CM if its not to keep the community informed of the happenings surrounding their game.

If Crytek is wanting to genuinely compete with the MP top dogs, they need to pay very close attention to Halo's gameplay quality their MP reliability and community management.

Try to aim for that.

Pretty visuals mean nothing if the GAMEPLAY IS SH1T RIDDLED WITH BUGS!!
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:08 pm

SO CHILL THE **** OUT!!! I see the same type of complaining from the console crowd EVERY TIME a new FPS comes out. Crytek has already RELEASED TWO PATCHES in a span of less than a month (which is far more than many other developers have done)



It's NOT the community managers job to hold your hand and constantly tell you a fix is incoming for all these issues. Very few if any developers that I have seen ever released patch details for consoles until one is actually released.


- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification
- It takes 2-3 weeks to put a patch through certification


It has already been stated firmly by Crytek that they will continue to support the game until it's well within a golden standard of satisfaction.

agreed!
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:42 am

crysis 2 had potential but it **** blows, **** off if i'm buying crysis 3, just gonna torrent all crytek games from now on. Get my money back that way.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:20 pm

Sorry to burst your bubble but it doesn't take that long for a patch to get through Microsoft certification.

Proof: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2008/11/so_how_long_do_sony_and_microsofts_approvals_processes_take-2/

Odds are that they've already submitted the patch but it was rejected by Microsoft certification. Either that or they are STILL working on it.
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:17 am

Congratulations - You just won the Captian Obvious competition, I'm mailing you out a cookie now.

You notice how Crytek managed to get out 2 patches within a week of release? That was because they were working on them well before the game was available for purchase. It is a pretty clear indication that the developers knew the myriad of issues contained in their "finished" product, and was working at break neck speed to resolve some of them. But considering how many trials this company had, closed beta and 2 rounds of public demos, it is beyond credible to suggest we remain consistently patient for a company that doesn't seem to be listening to it's consumers.

So are you going to play the role of Apologist on Cryteks behalf? This is the "Official" Crysis community, shouldn't we expect some level of communication, rather then let the forums whip themselves into a frenzy everytime some body provides second hand information? Confirm or Deny, don't ignore the community and facilitate the rage and frustration. If people want to have a rant and a sook that is their choice to do so, why even bother to be ancillary to the moderators lack of interest in the forums, the community and communication? Just ignore those that you find annoying and get on with the rest of your day. If I could actually play C2 to a reasonable degree online I would never have even come to the forums, I can't stand forums, because more often than not they are full of people complaining about something or other. So it is more than a little silly to ask people to stop complaining, it just invites those that do little but bich to come and flame-on in the thread, which in turn increases the amount of negativity and complaining going on.....

Well said Mull, there is no excuse imo. And I am a fan of C2...
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Post » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:45 am

BUT it does NOT take 2-3 weeks to provide information to the community as to what is in the COMPLETED patch which is being certified. I don't mind waiting. I mind the lack of updates, the lack of information, and the fact that when it comes to problems like the grain glitch we haven't even been told yet if it will EVER be fixed. I waited 2 months for a proper Fallout: New Vegas patch which I did patiently BECAUSE the developed kept us up to date on their activities.
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