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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:46 am

Fo sho? Or is that just wishful thinking?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:24 pm

Fo sho? Or is that just wishful thinking?


Well [censored] done.

I get Day Zero.


MK laid claim to that particular spot a fair while back :D
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:51 pm

Indeed he did, I cant wait!

And this latest one is just... splendid.
Psijic-orgism.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:40 pm

Psijic-orgism.


My thoughts exactly.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:30 am

http://www.monkeytruth.net


We welcome all confraters of the Temple Zero on its official opening day. To celebrate the event, we now present you with one of our most prized treasures, taken by an anonymous confrater from the high-security cellars of the Imperial Archives. While the original document onto-vaporized upon decrypti0n, a nu-mber of copies were ma]de to ensurerusne that the Imperial bloodhounds # would lose our tr%ail and to il'lust'rat'e, once [and/or/with/except] for all, that n0 fForce however prof@ne or dIvIne [kkkkkkkkk], can stopotstop the p-uh-rog-uh-ress of Truth[./!/?] M.u.c.h to the-a-many-none ch?gr?n ?f th? Imp?r?ous ?mp?re, the T?mpl?-T Z?r?-0 S?c?ety [swindlers! heretics! thieves!] pr?s?nt?[zzzzzzzssssssssssssssss................... ] http://www.monkeytruth.net/
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:43 pm

Haven't been able to decrypt it yet.
Cant find any good source for the letters, lol.

Only got a bunch of You in it so far... but that helped.

Thanks once again for a great contribution to our beloved society.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:32 pm

http://www.monkeytruth.net


We welcome all confraters of the Temple Zero on its official opening day. To celebrate the event, we now present you with one of our most prized treasures, taken by an anonymous confrater from the high-security cellars of the Imperial Archives. While the original document onto-vaporized upon decrypti0n, a nu-mber of copies were ma]de to ensurerusne that the Imperial bloodhounds # would lose our tr%ail and to il'lust'rat'e, once [and/or/with/except] for all, that n0 fForce however prof@ne or dIvIne [kkkkkkkkk], can stopotstop the p-uh-rog-uh-ress of Truth[./!/?] M.u.c.h to the-a-many-none ch?gr?n ?f th? Imp?r?ous ?mp?re, the T?mpl?-T Z?r?-0 S?c?ety [swindlers! heretics! thieves!] pr?s?nt?[zzzzzzzssssssssssssssss................... ] http://www.monkeytruth.net/

This looks like fun!

I've been playing around in http://people.w3.org/rishida/scripts/uniview/conversion. Not sure if it will help, though.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:33 pm

Anyone else having any luck? I found the reoccurring pattern (which falls apart in the third stanza/paragraph). That could be a mistake, though.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:57 pm

Aha, a riddle! I do love them, despite my general inability to solve them.

too have seen a pattern, but mine holds through the entirety of the text. I suggest to look to the accompanying introductory text for hints, it seems that the distortion within it might not be random. I

Fruitful hunting, my fellow aspirants,
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:18 pm

This is making my head spin.

No luck here B.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:53 pm

I don't know if it's stating the obvious. I don't know if it's moving everything along, but there do seem to be a few repeated strings here that at least give the impression of a coded language. And my browser can't see the entire thing unfortunately. Interestingly enough it seems to run in circles with each paragraph starting at different points. The first paragraph runs around it three times. The rest mostly go around just twice. Interestingly, at first glance the only part that actually breaks this pattern are the phrase towards the end of the first paragraph that reads "⡹ꁴォ⊉∏⎉ﻂ " In every other instance, it reads: "⡹ꁴォ⊉∏⎉⎝␧⒂ᅺ┙☊㊊ﻂ ", extending the phrase by 7 characters. I have yet to see any other imperfections in the pattern.

My wild guess is that given the four paragraphs (1/2 eight), the more or less nine repetitions of the pattern, and the exotic and multitude of different real-world alphabetical characters used, the thing is a guide to breaking the Dragon ala Marukhati-style.

edit: I found the one I think B was referring to, "⒂ᅺ┙☊㊊ﻂ??Ωϣ" is in the last run around in the third stanza, but "⒂ᅺ┙☊㊊ﻂ?ᄆ丣—?ﺞ⾅?䶙⡡?Ωϣ" is how it reads everywhere else. Nine characters were cut out. Additionally, taking the first stanza as the base, the second stanza is displaced to the right nine characters, the third displaces the pattern a further four, and then the fourth displaces right another four characters.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:43 pm

Yes, I'm seeing the same thing. The pattern I was referring to was ?ᄆ丣??ﺞ⾅?䶙⡡?Ωϣͷཀྵ༓걥࿙ﺷቺ≪⽉ཀྵ∭῿ᅊ⃟℞ﻭᅦ}⡹ꁴォ⊉∏⎉⎝␧⒂ᅺ┙☊㊊ﻂ

I prefer viewing the source code for the page to see the numbers. Maybe that will help: 216 4358 20003 151 189 65182 12165 255 19865 10337 29 26 208 937 995 887 3945 3859 44133 4057 65207 4730 8810 12105 3945 8749 8191 4426 8415 8478 65261 65479 65373 10361 41076 12457 8841 8719 9097 9117 9255 9346 4474 9497 9738 12938 65218
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:38 am

Both of you are simply taking too many characters. The pattern consists of a series of several smaller sub-patterns, with the main pattern being repeated three times in each paragraph. Each paragraph, except for the last, is begun and ended on a broken pattern of code. These attach the paragraphs together. Paragraph 1 goes at the end of paragraph 2, for example. Paragraph three must somehow be split into or by the others, though it is missing several characters. http://yfrog.com/6timg1079wj is the original text, color coded. And http://yfrog.com/4pimg1080dj it is with the combined paragraphs.

Hopefully this is going in the right direction,
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P.S. Excuse the sloppy colors, the meaning should still be clear.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:23 pm

I'll have to take a better look to understand what you are saying, Ayaan-Si. All I know is, when looking at the page's source code, starting with the first symbol, there is a string of 47 different symbols which is then repeated over and over until the 'break' occurs.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:56 pm

I did some elementary statistics. Of the 47 characters, most repeat 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 times, except one that appears 24 times - the #3945 character. Under the assumption there's a real text hidden here, this character is probably SPACE.

Edit: ...which leaves me with some suspiciously long words (around 35 characters). But it kind of http://olivia.infinitereflections.rs/T0Code.html.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:54 pm

Now if only we knew what else the Zero inducted into its avian circle. C0DA smells a lot like n0 fF0rce.

But if there were an fForce, it'd have to be Flying. ;)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:25 pm

The full text in code point format, added a space infront of each ; to make sure it doesnt' get converted to unicode here:

'ᄆ ;丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;&# 9497 ;☊ ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;Ø ;ᄆ ;丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ; 4133 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;Z 97 ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;☊ ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;Ø ;ᄆ ;丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;&# 937 ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;& #41076 ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;ﻂ ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;Ɗ 5 ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;☊ ;&# 12938 ;ﻂ ;Ø ;ᄆ ;丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;&# 65207 ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;\ 55 ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;☊ ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;Ø ;ᄆ ;丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;X 7 ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;☊ ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;X 7 ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;☊ ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;Ø ;ᄆ ;丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᦓ 9 ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;☊ ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;Ø ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;&# 3945 ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ; 841 ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;T 15 ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ;☊ ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;Ø ;ᄆ ; 丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ;࿙ ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;⊉ ;∏ ;⎉ ;⎝ ;␧ ;⒂ ;ᅺ ;┙ ; 738 ;㊊ ;ﻂ ;Ø ;ᄆ ;丣 ;— ;½ ;ﺞ ;⾅ ;ÿ ;䶙 ;⡡ ; ; ;Ð ;Ω ;ϣ ;ͷ ;ཀྵ ;༓ ;걥 ; 057 ;ﺷ ;ቺ ;≪ ;⽉ ;ཀྵ ;∭ ;῿ ;ᅊ ;⃟ ;℞ ;ﻭ ;ᅦ ;} ;⡹ ;ꁴ ;ォ ;'

Did a character count.

' ;': 11,
' ;': 10,
'— ;': 8,
'½ ;': 8,
'Ð ;': 11,
'Ø ;': 8,
'ÿ ;': 9,
'ͷ ;': 12,
'Ω ;': 11,
'ϣ ;': 11,

'༓ ;': 12,
'ཀྵ ;': 24,

'࿙ ;': 12,
'ᄆ ;': 8,
'ᅊ ;': 12,
'ᅺ ;': 10,
'ቺ ;': 12,

'ﻭ ;': 12,

'῿ ;': 12,
'⃟ ;': 12,
'℞ ;': 12,
'∏ ;': 11,
'∭ ;': 12,
'≪ ;': 12,
'⊉ ;': 11,


'⎉ ;': 11,
'⎝ ;': 10,
'␧ ;': 10,
'⒂ ;': 10,
'┙ ;': 10,
'☊ ;': 9,

'⡡ ;': 10,
'⡹ ;': 12,
'⽉ ;': 12,
'⾅ ;': 9,
'ォ ;': 12,
'㊊ ;': 9,
'䶙 ;': 9,

'丣 ;': 8,
'ꁴ ;': 12,
'걥 ;': 12,

'ﺞ ;': 9,
'ﺷ ;': 12
'ﻂ ;': 10,
'} ;': 12,
'ᅦ ;': 12

Which puts us at 45 characters. A few to many for a simple substitution cypher. The grouping might suggest a vingere but considering the distance between the characters inside each group is also too large, this also seems unlikely.

In addition, the distribution of the characters does not seem to adhere to Zipf's law and covers most of the unicode range. (Note that the maximum unicode character is ￾). This suggests the data is either random or strongly encrypted.

And really, considering the context, we've seen the speaker vanish into Zero-Sum. We were counting to Zero after all. Makes sense if it's just random data. :D
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:36 pm

I think there's too much repetition for something completely random.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 3:03 am

I think there's too much repetition for something completely random.


Not if it's the same random phrase copy&pasted a few times over. The images from Ayaan-Si show both patterns are repeated about 12 times. So every character occurs roughly only once.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:33 pm

I do agree that, gibberish or not, one repeating phrase can hardly have much meaning.

But it was fun. :)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:27 pm

I have to disagree: one repeating phrase can have a lot of meaning. Notice the Hist language article, for a recent example ;)

If we take into account the pattern, each symbol occurs only once - except for the black square. My assumption was therefore that the black square was the space. the obvious objection to that would be its position at the head of paragraph 4, however, if I am correct in my assumption that the paragraphs are to be rearranged then it would make perfect sense.

Assuming that, we are still left with far to many characters. My train of thought is that there are several characters for each letter, which would also explain why no character is repeated within the pattern (it is impossible to not repeat any letters in a sentence). This would make translation much more difficult.

At the moment, i have two distinct ideas as to how the characters relate to letters. One states that the letters are based on the literal meanings of the characters (such as Ω as the Greek O and ⡡ as the Braille). The other infers some sort of mathematical formula (or other pattern) used to generate the numerical unicode values.

Do we know who wrote the introductory paragraph accompanying the text? Was it also MK, in which case it could hold vital clues, or was it a second party?

Probing,
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:53 pm

Which puts us at 45 characters.

I thought I counted 47 in my list, you say 45, but I counted 46 in your list. I'm not sure.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:15 pm

Alas, it seems that the Imperial counterscriers have intercepted our last missive. The Temple wonders why the Empire is so frightened of the truth? I assure you, their postencryptions are uncrackable, and though some have produced dangerous pyrolexemes, the truth of [NUMINIT] cannot be ascertained by any technique, magical or otherwise.

We apologize for the inconvenience. In the meantime, several well-known old chestnuts can be found in the Temple's archives. A list has been made available for you.
    -http://www.monkeytruth.net/texts/sloadtale.shtml
    -http://www.monkeytruth.net/texts/birthdayparty.shtml
    -http://www.monkeytruth.net/texts/orccreation.shtml
    -http://www.monkeytruth.net/texts/sanctaagdistra.shtml
Our gates remain open and we hope to have many more of these in the future. But for the time being,

Tam! RUGH!
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:26 am

Allow me break character for a second to say:

pweh :meh:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:58 pm

Ayaan-Si:

There was no MK on day zero.

While I like the spirit of your attempt, a string without any (more then a few) repeating characters does not contain enough information to be deciphered without a key. Not because it's impossible to find a key that creates and intelligible message, but because a large number of such keys exists.
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