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The important thing that "Necessity" mods (and most members here) always forgot (or ignore).

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You.. do know that if we had a hardcoe mode.. were we had to sleep..

.. not to mention when they say come back tomorrow...

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Is that the language that the Giants will speak?

I hope so that's be pretty cool if they were very non-specific and hoped you'd get the gist of what they were talking about

Keeping yourself well-fed, at the very least, used to be pretty standard CRPG stuff back in, like, the Ultima days.

Maybe they'll have "Quas Mani Ylem" as a Dragonshout.

Haha, I read over your post and was like..."what?"
But yes, I do realize the sleeping part. Just saying, it would be a lot more "hardcoe" than whatever it is we currently have.

Trying reading The Postman but don't watch the movie. Theres a lot more than just that.

So, do people want a game or the Sims?

Oh....this...again.
Let's agree to disagree.

Funny, though, Tamagochi.
I'm sure people will sugest a Barbie&Ken mode too.

Breton mage needs food badly!

I would never use a hardcoe mode, but I dont think things should not be in just cause I wont use them.
I never use bow and arows either, but I think its a deeper game because its in.
So by all means, I dont mind a hardcoe mode.
As long as I can turn it off.

Kinky... :hubbahubba:

That's what they in the Biz call busy work.






Then you agree. "hardcoe" mode is hardly hard at all. Why do you play it then?

last I checked Tamagotchi means...Egg watch,...we haven't seen any eggs and there definently aren't any "watches" in Tamriel, and the last thing anyone wants to do is watch an Egg.....

That's not a good idea, because some people can only play at certain times during the day. So that means you'd only ever get to see the game at a certain time. Better to just have hardcoe mode like the normal game.

I seriously doubt that Skyrim will feature anything like the hardcoe mode in New Vegas. No, it wouldn't fit in TES very well. However, most fans who play hardcoe mode in New Vegas DO like it, and agree that it was overall pretty well implemented. If you don't like it, turn it off, because hey- it's optional, and don't complain about it. Bethesda is not Obsidian, and there's little to no chance that there will be anything like a hardcoe mode in Skyrim.

I will say though, that is pretty clever to call it tamagotchi mode.

I disagree with the "horribly made" bit. IMO its the best Fallout game since FO2.
I do wish it had been more like FO2 though... Weighted ammo, and a remote chance of dehydration damage, but not as a main game mechanic. IMO food should be optional.

A shame IMO... I would have prefered that New Vegas not have an HC mode, or a Wild Wasteland Perk ~and instead, made the HC & WW content mandatory.

hardcoe Mode in New Vegas is not just about eating, drinking, and sleeping . . . that's just part of it.

It also prevents damaged limbs from healing on their own, ammunition actually has weight, and it limits Fast Travel distances.

But I agree that it was very poorly implemented in NV (which is why I modded my own version) . . . but just because it was not done well in NV, doesn't mean that it couldn't be done correctly in Skyrim. The problem is that too many gamers don't even get what a RPG is all about and play TES (and Fallout 3 and NV) games the same as they would a shooter. And it really doesn't help that the RPG aspects have recently been so diluted that they barely resemble a traditional RPG).

Far too many gamers feel that anything that gets in the way of blasting through the killing part the game, should be optional . . . so that they won't have to "bother" with it.

It's funny. When ever these hardcoe threads pop up, i don't think about drinking, eating, sleeping, ect. I think of the older RPG's such as, Bards Tale, Wizardry, and the Realms of Arcania series. I consider those games hardcoe, and they didn't have required eating or sleeping. It was the game mechanics that made them hardcoe. The combat especially. Those games are not for the weak. Just one thing about the RoA series. Those may have been the most hardcoe RPG's of all time. I remember trying to go down a well. Well, you actually had to go to the store to get rope before going down the well. You couldn't just click on the well and magically appear at the bottom. Great game.

This I didn't like at all... I thought it was absurd. The whole point of a "Fast Travel" method is to bypass long tedious distances (like when your PC has to limp back to Greensprings). In the times that it is most desirable, they remove access to it. :bonk:

(Its crazy ~utter lunacy, to have crippled legs affect FT in HC mode.)

How is this "absurb?" . . . why use a feature that require Needs, and be able to ignore your Needs when it isn't convenient?

The fast travel limitation actually makes a great deal of sense, since time passes while you fast travel . . . so you are limited to distances that are within your Needs range (so you don't die because you went too long without drinking any water). All you have to do is break up your long trips, and take care of your Needs between jumps.

Time spent in the game (from the player's perspective) is irrelevant. All that should matter is that the game account for the approximate time the PC would take to reach their destination; It should pass more time on the game clock for a crippled PC; and (to impress) should increase the chances of a random encounter (which bizarrely do not exist in the game).

***Edit... While I don't like that idea... I do think its been my mistake ~we are talking about two different aspects. I am describing FT's removal while the PC's limbs are crippled. The Fallout series [always] had dehydration damage, as a minor aspect, but there's no need to have it as a major game mechanic ~too insignificant (IMO).

****Edit: Instead of a travel limit, I would greatly prefer that the PC handle their own business while trying to get to where I've selected on the map.

I hate you and everything you stand for. I'd rather see it required than removed. And more hardcoe.

Agreed (on the time issue) . . . one of the problems with the NV's hardcoe mede was that it was based on real time (except while you were sleeping or fast traveling) . . . so if you used a slower Timescale, you often died of dehydration when you slept for more than a couple of hours.

Is that hard-coded? Is it correctable with a script?