Tamriel vs Akavir

Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:16 pm

Im a bit lost here, this passage from the UESP Wiki page states that the two continents peoples have invaded each other many times yet according to my knowledge of lore they've only invaded each other once, at least Tamriel did.

"The continent of Akavir, also known as "Dragon Land", is a landmass east of Tamriel. The two continents have a history of animosity towards each other, each having invaded the other several times in the past."

Im probably missing something can someone please clarify? thnx
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Jennifer Munroe
 
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:46 pm

Akavir as a whole (or at least both men AND Tsaeci) Invaded once. Tamriel has Invaded twice (Nevarine counts.) However, many Akaviri pirates (I always assumed they were Akaviri men, no Po' ton or any other beast race) have attacked smaller settlements in Morrowind and Argonia.
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Post » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:11 am

Akavir as a whole (or at least both men AND Tsaeci) Invaded once. Tamriel has Invaded twice (Nevarine counts.) However, many Akaviri pirates (I always assumed they were Akaviri men, no Po' ton or any other beast race) have attacked smaller settlements in Morrowind and Argonia.


well the snow demons of akavir invaded morrowind before, and i thought the NEvarine left in a ship to Akavir, this and some hit and runs by pirates would hardly be considered invasions in any emperors eyes.
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Post » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:20 am

well the snow demons of akavir invaded morrowind before, and i thought the NEvarine left in a ship to Akavir, this and some hit and runs by pirates would hardly be considered invasions in any emperors eyes.


I forgot about the snow demons. They were stopped by Seht and Alma at Red Mountain, right?
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:19 am

This might help:

http://www.imperial-library.info/akavir/index.shtml

Look specifically under "Tamriel-Akavir relations"
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:59 pm

This might help:

http://www.imperial-library.info/akavir/index.shtml

Look specifically under "Tamriel-Akavir relations"


so according to the Imperial library i was right, Tamriel hasnt invaded Akavir several times but the other way around. Someone should edit that wiki page.
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Post » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:28 am

so according to the Imperial library i was right, Tamriel hasnt invaded Akavir several times but the other way around. Someone should edit that wiki page.


I could, would you mind linking to the page?
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:57 am

The Nerevarine went on a expidition to Akavir.... that's something tottaly different then an invasion....
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:31 pm

The Nerevarine went on a expidition to Akavir.... that's something tottaly different then an invasion....


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I'm just curious to know why he/she was there.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:01 pm

The Nerevarine went on a expidition to Akavir.... that's something tottaly different then an invasion....


That's true, and my impression from hearing this is that it's fairly small, so even if the goal of the expedition is violent in nature, I wouldn't call it an invasion.

In any case, unless there's been some additional lore on it I did not hear about, all we know about this expedition is from a rumor in Oblivion, which says that the Nerevarine has left Morrowind on an expedition to Akavir and has not been heard from since, which sounds suspiciously like Bethesda's way of putting the Nerevarine http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PutOnABus, though it's probably going to be a http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LongBusTrip. And we don't know what the purpose of the expedition was or what became of it, or for that matter, whether it ever reached Akavir or what happened to the Nerevarine, not what I'd call an invasion at all.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 11:15 pm

Akavir as a whole (or at least both men AND Tsaeci) Invaded once. Tamriel has Invaded twice (Nevarine counts.)


Nah, it doesn't. I hardly call a one-man expedition an invasion. People from Tamriel have GONE there twice.

And I see someone beat me to that explanation...
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:02 pm

[2]

I'm just curious to know why he/she was there.

"Well, I just killed a few false gods and been and done it all. Hmm.... Hey, Cyrus, wanna see what Akavir is like? It'll be a great romp!"
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:11 pm

[2]

I'm just curious to know why he/she was there.


To effectively remove him/her from the events of Tamriel. This seems to be the destiny of all Heroes.

Many who set foot in Akavir never, ever return. Let us remember the example of poor http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/ionith.shtml.

It is possible that one such as the Nerevarine, guided by prophecy, would find a more pleasant fate there, but I don't expect we'll hear from that champion again. He reminds me, in this sense, of the Blue Wizards from Lord of the Rings. Let me read you a passage and see if you don't also see similarities:

"I think that they went as emissaries to distant regions, east and south, .... Missionaries to enemy occupied lands as it were. What success they had I do not know; but I fear that they failed, as Saruman did, though doubtless in different ways; and I suspect they were founders or beginners of secret cults and "magic" traditions that outlasted the fall of Sauron."

^ Perhaps the Nerevarine, like the Blue Wizards from that other universe, was actually on an important mission and he/she failed, but not in a corrupt or wicked way. This wouldn't necessarily render this person dead - simply unheard from. The Nerevarine may be in Tosh Raka's belly, or the Nerevarine may be in another dimension, or sitting pretty on a pile of gold being worshipped by Akaviri snow demons. I don't know. In any event we haven't heard of any Towers on Akavir collapsing so we can assume Nerevar has not continued his God-killing career.
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Post » Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:50 am

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I'm just curious to know why he/she was there.

To get the Nerevarine out of the picture for future TES games.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:30 pm

I could, would you mind linking to the page?


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akavir

cool i would do it if i knew how to, havnt had a chance to learn how though
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:16 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akavir

cool i would do it if i knew how to, havnt had a chance to learn how though


Done.
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Post » Mon Jun 21, 2010 6:19 pm

Done.


awsome thnx
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Post » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:49 am

You're probably better off just running a search on Akavir at the Imperial Library. There's too many things of dubious sources that make their way into UESP.
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